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Main => Artwork => Topic started by: Carsten Carlos on March 30, 2003, 04:41:18 am
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Has anyone here ever ordered one of their sidearts? As far as I read from their website they seem to have good quality - and the Centipede sideart is for $100 not that expensive, assuming this is the price for a pair!
How do you apply this really big art anyway? I can't lay the cab on it's side, it got much to heavy for this! :o
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I don't know if the art is exactly the same as original sideart, but I doubt it is much worse -- real sideart is actually pretty flimsy stuff :-\
I also recall the Arcade Renovations people being very finnicky about the quality of their reproductions -- color matching, clarity, positioning, etc. seem to be a big deal with them..
Did you try just sending them an e-mail asking for some close-up pics of an installed set..?
Damn, it sure seems like a lot of people are getting Centipedes to MAME lately.. I hope it was broken first ;)
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i ordered a set of q*bert side art from them awhile back and it was super premo excellent quality.
clean the side of your cabinet really good(windex then a little bit of contact cleaner) and be very careful when applying the sticker. i would start from the top, peel a small amount of the backing off to start the application then peel it back more as you go down. this way you dont have the whole sticker exposed which can be awkward. make sure to press the sticker on firmly and squeeze out any air bubbles as you go down.
i also bought a double donkey kong marquee(silk screened plexi) from them to hang on the wall and it was also super premo quality good :D
-pocketz
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Damn, it sure seems like a lot of people are getting Centipedes to MAME lately.. I hope it was broken first
My hands are clean - I rebuild a Centipede from scratch, no real Centipede-cabinets were harmed! :)
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Currently out of stock. I hope they print some more soon, I have been waiting since Febuary.
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Yep - damn, they had the best price! Should I order them for $125? (+$37 shipping to germany :( )
Here they are still available:
http://www.arcadeshop.com/ (http://www.arcadeshop.com/)
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I've considered them, does anyone knw about their quality? They recently lowered the price from $145.
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i see this stuff on eBay all the time. here is Centipede:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3216513113&category=13718
it includes marquee, monitor bezel, CP overlay and sideart for $199.
Also check their other items for sale.
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i see this stuff on eBay all the time. here is Centipede:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3216513113&category=13718
it includes marquee, monitor bezel, CP overlay and sideart for $199.
Also check their other items for sale.
This is the same seller as eBay user ID "pinsetc" and www.arcadegrafix.com. You might want to check this out if you are planning on buying (http://groups.google.com/groups?num=20&hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&safe=off&q=pinsetc+group%3Arec.games.video.arcade.collecting).
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This is the same seller as eBay user ID "pinsetc" and www.arcadegrafix.com. You might want to check this out if you are planning on buying (http://groups.google.com/groups?num=20&hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&safe=off&q=pinsetc+group%3Arec.games.video.arcade.collecting).
UH-OH SPAGHETTIOS!
Everyone on agvac blasts this guy, but his eBay rating is really good. Craziness, I tell you.
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Arcadegrafix / auctionworks is so bad that it was even mentioned in a german arcadeforum -at least they are worldwide popular! :D
However, I had a bad feeling about them since I saw there very strange website-grafix, somehow it does look like a bad 16color-windows-screenshot.
I have a good feeling about the quality of arcadeshop.com, but like Larry I'd like to get this confirmed, as I have no chance to return it.
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FWIW, arcaderenovations.com and arcadeshop.com are some of the few places that offer silk-screened (not jet printed) side art. I am the proud owner of a Centipede sideart set from arcaderenovations and the quality is absolutely incredible. Have no experience with arcadeshop.com, but should be similar. Never heard anything bad about either.
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I placed an order a few hours ago! :D
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I seem to remember a fiasco a while back about the Arcadeshop vs. Arcade Renovations Centipede side art on RGVAC, a Google search should turn up some hits. I don't remember the exact details, but it had something to do with AR's Centipede artwork had some flaws, or was crooked, or something like that... I remember that Arcadeshop had a remark on their page like Our's aren't crooked like the other guys, or something along those lines. Needless to say, that sparked some interesting discussions on RGVAC.
I'm sure AR's sideart is fixed now, but just knowing that there may be previous versions of it out there floating around (possibly on eBay) that is flawed, or crooked, or whatever would make me a bit leary of purchasing that particular piece from an "unknown" source, especially if you invest that much $$ on it.
Of course this is all moot now that have already ordered it, but I'm sure you be completely satisified with ArcadeShop's sideart. I've heard that their Centipede side art is the best one you can buy. You'll have to give us your opinion (and some pics!) of it when you receive it.
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I seem to remember a fiasco a while back about the Arcadeshop vs. Arcade Renovations Centipede side art on RGVAC... I remember that Arcadeshop had a remark on their page like Our's aren't crooked like the other guys, or something along those lines.
It figures. I read some time ago that ArcadeShop and ArcadeRenovations were partners at some point and then split. Or something like that. In a nutshell, the consensus in RGVAC forums is that these two guys along with twobit are the best around.
-- Android
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You'll have to give us your opinion (and some pics!) of it when you receive it.
I sure will! :D
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Hi folks!
My Centipede-sideart arrived today! Really fast, and luckily without paying any taxes though shipped overseas!
I haven't applied it yet - I'll wait for a friend to help me. There is still the protection-paper over it, but from what I can tell so far it looks good.
What I really wonder - it seems that there is no shape cut? ???
So shall I cut the outlines of this big worm before I applied it, do I miss something, or is this art supposed to cover the whole side, so I only cut the overstanding edges?
If its the last one, than I sure have a problem. To fit bigger controlpanels, I made two slightly changes to the original Centipede-design -the controlpanel is a few inch deeper, and the marquee-area also (so you don't see the extended controlpanel-area at first sideview).
Anyway, I guess there are easier things to cut out than these big beautfiful worm? ???
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Congrats on picking up the sideart duty-free! You gotta love that! ;D
I would definitely recommend you send a quick email to ArcadeShop for a few pointers on installing and trimming the sideart because you certainly wouldn't want to risk messing up that beautiful piece of work. I thought the Centipede sideart was die cut to the correct shape, but apparently I am mistaken if it is just a big sheet.
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In the worst case scenario you'll just have to trace a 1/4" border around the outline and use that as your trim line.
Great work, you're going to have a beautiful cabinet.
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Congratulations! Isn't that a beauty? told you so... Look for installation instructions in the Arcade renovations site. The way to apply it is to cover the whole side of the cabinet with the side art and then trim around the cab edges. If I recall correctly, the side art itself has some alignment marks to make your job easier. Of course this is for original-sized cabs. If you modified the original measurements, then your cab may be too wide/tall for the art and you may have to cut around the worm instead. The good news is that since your cab is laminated white it will look good either way.
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Isn't that a beauty?
Arrgh, I felt in love with a worm! ;D
Mailed to Arcadeshop last night - he is sure the quickest answering man you ever can imagine, every mail came back answered in one minute! :o
The art is supposed to cover the whole cabinet, as Android said. Well, as mine is a bit bigger, I've two options:
-Make patchwork for the two missing corners (controlpanel and marquee-area) - guess there is enough material left after triming).
-Cut around the worm and then apply it.
I'm not sure if I'd be able to cut the whole worm without making any mistakes, so I guess I'll take the first option - would be a little glitch in the cab though, but I guess there'll always be a little mistake in your work.
Well, quite not sure how to do it! ???
@Android
I've seen the document you talked of earlier, but can't find it anymore. Have you saved it somewhere?
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I'd trim about a 1/4" border around the worm and apply it that way. Having a seam or two on the side of your cabinet wouldn't do that image justice, IMO.
Wade
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Hm, I'll make a drawing and try out some possibilities. Maybe I just would trim about the half to the front, and cover the whole back. So I've at least a half chance to make some bad cuts. ;)
I could imagine that this would look okay - I'll have a close look how much paper actual is missing.
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Hm, I'll make a drawing and try out some possibilities. Maybe I just would trim about the half to the front, and cover the whole back. So I've at least a half chance to make some bad cuts. ;)
I could imagine that this would look okay - I'll have a close look how much paper actual is missing.
You definitely, definitely, DEFINITELY want to cut 1/4" all the way around the image. You've paid alot for that beautiful artwork and put alot of sweat into the cabinet. Don't cheap out now.
Go to a drafting or art supply store and buy yourself a french curve. It has tons of varying curves to help you trace around your worm. Once you have a uniform 1/4" border all around your image I'd just cut it out carefully with scissors. If you supply me the ticket to Germany I'd be happy to do it for you! ;D I'll even guarantee a perfect job! hehe
Here's an example of a bunch:
http://www.reuels.com/reuels/page428.html
They also have flexible curves........ Basically a wire covered in plastic so you can bend it to any curve. This will be perfect for you. It'll make it easy! I promise.
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Okay, Wade and Brax, you got me!
I definitely will trace around my big beautiful worm, promise! :D
French curves... if you haven't enclosed the link, I sure would have thought it means something different ;D
If you supply me the ticket to Germany I'd be happy to do it for you!
Uh, BEFORE started the cab, I even might have enough money left for that! Sorry, Brax, would have been nice to meet ya (and we've damn good beer here!)
I'll get myself some tools - luckily one of our female workers here has made decorating stuff before, so I found some expert here, too. I'll keep you informed! :)
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Go to a drafting or art supply store and buy yourself a french curve.
The problem with french curves is that they are always surrendering in the middle of drawing your line, and it's harder to trace around that white flag evenly =P
rampy
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The problem with french curves is that they are always surrendering in the middle of drawing your line, and it's harder to trace around that white flag evenly =P
LOL I was thinking that, but you said it.
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Though interesting I'll make it without french curves anyway. I was told the best is to cut it all in one line - I'll try!
Unfortunately I'll have to take the protection paper out - not a good idea to leave it on while cutting. It's not that good to see through, and I don't want it to move while I'm cutting.
At least this would gave me the chance to make a scan of the sideart (can do this at work), you never know!
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I'm a bit in a hurry - gotta drink some beers tonight with my friends!
But I had to show you how this turned out - this sideart is really awesome! Couldn't turn out better, really love it! :-*
By the way -cutting out the worm turned out very fine - I'm so lucky I've done that! :) :) :)
(the picture turned out to dark - from what I know the colors of the sideart match very good!)
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That cabinet is just gorgeous! I've always loved the look of the centipede cabinet (both the shape and the artwork).
My next cabinet will definitely have to be an arcade reproduction.
Couple of questions: Are you planning on finishing the front with a panel and coin door? Do you have an authentic looking monitor bezel?
Absolutely fabulous work, man. Good job.
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Wow, that looks really nice!! You have me really thinking about making a restoration (or reproduction) my next project.
Wade
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I'm a bit in a hurry - gotta drink some beers tonight with my friends!
But I had to show you how this turned out - this sideart is really awesome! Couldn't turn out better, really love it! :-*
By the way -cutting out the worm turned out very fine - I'm so lucky I've done that! :) :) :)
(the picture turned out to dark - from what I know the colors of the sideart match very good!)
Damn .... Where did you get those "off white eggshell colored" leaf switch buttons for the pinball flippers?
Those things are SWEEEEEEET! LOL !!!
Cab looks great ... I am still working on your translucent buttons ... I have not forgotten about you. 8)
MM
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I think I just moistened myself!
NICE JOB! You're definitely on the top 5 list for nicest cabinet!!! (at LEAST, if not number 2 after 1UP)
I'm going for a more authentic Defender look when I copy 1UP's design. I love the look of the repro's. Fabulous work, look forward to seeing the completion!!
p.s. Hey! SLACKER! Get that web site updated!!! How selfish of you to think of yourself and play games on it! What about US? We need more pics and info about your cabinet!
*giggle*
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Damn! That's the look I'm going for in my Centipede Cabinet. Just finished sanding the second side today.
One question about the sideart: The surroundings of the worm... is all that a white decal, or transparent?
If it is white, I think there is no point on me painting my cab sides. Just priming will do. Or perhaps I should cut the work out like you did (I thought this is how it came)
Comments? Options? Advice?
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If you have a standard dimensioned Centipede then the white sticker will cover over it fine. Carstens control panel "wing" is longer than stock and therefore the sticker wouldn't cover. Besides, I think this looks more authentic anyways.
Up to you though.
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Very impressive, Carsten!! Nice installation on the side art! I really like white sided cabinets, they look so clean and don't seem quite so overbearing in a room I think.
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One question about the sideart: The surroundings of the worm... is all that a white decal, or transparent?
If it is white, I think there is no point on me painting my cab sides. Just priming will do. Or perhaps I should cut the work out like you did (I thought this is how it came)
Comments? Options? Advice?
The art is printed on white vynil, so no need to paint your cab. Check this link out. It tells you how to install sticker-type side art (not even priming is necessary):
http://www.69zl1.com/missilecommand.html (http://www.69zl1.com/missilecommand.html)
Carsten, great job. Your cabinet looks incredible. I'm glad you took a leap of faith and bought the art. Congrats!
-- Android
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That picture makes me kind of wish I would have kept that Atari cabinet I got rid of last weekend. It was an Arabian (I think), but the sideart was gone. Same cabinet as Centipede and Kangaroo. I do have a Kangaroo with perfect sideart, but Kangaroo isn't nearly as good of a game as Centipede (even if the art is better).
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Whee, so many compliments, thank you all, folks! Makes me blush all over! :D :D :D
Couple of questions: Are you planning on finishing the front with a panel and coin door? Do you have an authentic looking monitor bezel?
Yep, that's the only part I'm currently missing - the frontdoor just waits for it hinches, after that I can keep our cats out off the cabinet! ;) The bezelgraphic is still in its very basic version, so far I've the green lines and the Atari-logo, but not the mushroom, and worse, the three insects at the top. Still have to find a highres-image for this!
Unfortunately I can't add the blue plastic bezel between monitor and glass, just wouldn't work in my rotating design. By the way, the steelwings carrying the monitor are not that much visible in reality as this is grey smoked glass - it just turned out like that on the photo. (I really wonder how Oscar makes these glass and monitor photos without any reflections!)
For now, I like the steelwings, looks very cool when rotation starts! :)
Damn .... Where did you get those "off white eggshell colored" leaf switch buttons for the pinball flippers?
Those things are SWEEEEEEET! LOL !!!
Cab looks great ... I am still working on your translucent buttons ... I have not forgotten about you.
;D On this board you can find such helpful people! ;)
Hey! SLACKER! Get that web site updated!!!
Guess its working time again! :D Wanted to redesign it anyway - just have to try out some conceptional ideas.
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The art is printed on white vynil, so no need to paint your cab.
Very nice pictures on your link! I have a closeup-picture here - sorry, turned out big in filesize, but wanted to keep the compression-artefacts low.
Like Brax, the cutout-lines give me a more authentic feel, too - but of course this is personal preference I guess!
Larry, have you placed your order now? ;)
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The priming I've done so far on mi Centipede cabinet has resulted in a slightly texturized surface (which I like, actually, but who cares once its covered by the sideart).
Is this going to pose a problem when I place the sideart sticker? I'm thinking the side should be as flat as possible for it to adhere properly. Additional sanding could help, but I've sanded a lot and it still looks texturized (this is the roller's fault.. although I did buy the finest most expensive one) <shrug>
The other alternative is to keep on priming several layers to get a real thick primed surface and then sand away real hard to smooth it out. Or should Paint on top of primer and then sand? Don't know how to make this thing smooth.
ideas?
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Hi folks!
What I really wonder - it seems that there is no shape cut? ???
So shall I cut the outlines of this big worm before I applied it, do I miss something, or is this art supposed to cover the whole side, so I only cut the overstanding edges?
Sorry I didn't see this sooner. On the original, the vinyl went right to the edge. But I think yours looks better! Excelent job on the cabinet!
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The priming I've done so far on mi Centipede cabinet has resulted in a slightly texturized surface
When I look closely from the side, I've a slightly texture also. You can't feel it though - it comes from the laminate under the white painting. At least my sideart hasn't peeled off anywhere and I really doubt it will! Of course, hard to tell from here how your surface turned out.
By the way, I updated and redesigned my homepage! Now featuring the sideart-section (how this all was done, lotta pictures) and my new guestbook! (please sign in! Want more english comments there - any other language would be also ok, but I don't understand anything else then english&german ;) )
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Carlos:
Could you please explain the procedure using water to apply the sideart? I cannot believe this works... water is like the last thiing I'd want between the sticker and the cabinet... please explain in detail how this process works!
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Hey Justin,
thanx for signing in! :D
I updated the attaching-part (much more text) -hope it is clearer now? Just let me know! :)
Oh, and believe me -water is the thing you would want most between your sticker and your cab at this stage! ;)
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Carlos:
Could you please explain the procedure using water to apply the sideart? I cannot believe this works... water is like the last thiing I'd want between the sticker and the cabinet... please explain in detail how this process works!
Ok, the process works like this:
The water allows you to slide around the artwork without it actually sticking. Once you have it positioned how you want it you can squeegee out all the air bubbles to make it perfect. The glue on the sticker is not water soluable so it actually doesn't hurt the sticking power at all. The water evaporates and then you have nothing left but glue which is now firmly attached to your cabinet! (its the same process they use to apply window tint. It works like a charm)
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Oh, and believe me -water is the thing you would want most between your sticker and your cab at this stage! ;)
Nice job, Carsten.
I'd just like to comment that water (with a very small amount of mild dish detergent even) is helpful for real, screen printed artwork. Getting water on unprotected inkjet stuff (kinkos) would be disastrous.
If you intend to use the "wet" application method with inkjet artwork, make sure you get it laminated. :)
BTW, Carsten, ein Rakel ist ein "squeegee" auf English, und den messer war eine "X-acto" oder "hobby knife" :)
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Thanx, RandyT!
Getting water on unprotected inkjet stuff (kinkos) would be disastrous.
Yep, better to include it in my next update. Though I only talked about the screen-printed artwork (you 'll never want anything else when you've seen this quality!) it's better to point that out!
Whee, you are speaking german? :D Dictionaries are totally lost when you wanna know what a Rakel is! ;D Now I got some more words I can add tomorrow - now it's time to sleep for me.
I really must add some lines how much better a screen printed sideart looks - of course not an option if you wanna make a sideart of your own.
with a very small amount of mild dish detergent even
Nearly forgot this - I did this also, although it doesn't seem a must.
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I didn't comment on this before, but GOOD LORD ALMIGHTY that looks so cool! Great job (and idea), Carsten!
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The priming I've done so far on mi Centipede cabinet has resulted in a slightly texturized surface
When I look closely from the side, I've a slightly texture also. You can't feel it though - it comes from the laminate under the white painting.
You mean you can see the texture through the sideart sticker? or did you mean before applying it?
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Thanx, Sasquatch! :D
You mean you can see the texture through the sideart sticker? or did you mean before applying it?
Oh god sakes -no, only before! :o But as I haven't covered the whole cab area, I still can have a look at the uncovered parts of the side. ;) It is really a VERY slightly texture, it won't shine through any paper. Maybe you have some black laminated furniture at home - I used the same wood for my cab. Its not a woodlike-structure, more like a perls-pattern. (but then, you have to look really closely. I don't think I can photograph this to show you, but I might try)
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Updated the sideart-section -thanx RandyT for pointing some missings out!
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with a very small amount of mild dish detergent even
Nearly forgot this - I did this also, although it doesn't seem a must.
I about forgot this too. A small amount is a drop or two in a spray bottle of water. Give the surface a nice misting, apply your artwork and "rakel" away! hehe