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Hmm, nice find!

I did see that shaft last night but since most of those websites don't show much in the way of dimensions, I assumed it was only for the Eurostick/Competitition, and did not bother looking into it further.  I can ask them about it.

The shaft diameter for my 4-way stick is indeed 10mm.  I measured it last night.

I found this on the official retroshooter website :



Are you using that kind of gun  (Reaper RS3) ?
Look like there no other settings than a DipSwitch to change mouse ID between P1~P4 

If this is the case.....and the gun can't send any info about it beeing on/offscreen then I'm affraid you can't do anything unfortunatelly.

Except for some game that are - nativelly - reloading when you're pointing at the screen border

I'm inclined to get help from a friend who has a CNC machine and see if I can just fabricate a new shaft to my specifications, and then add a Sanwa or Seimitsu ball to that.  Replacing the joystick will need to be a backup plan.

Digging a bit deeper, it looks like your stick is based on a Happ Super. (scroll down to Replacement Parts)
- The part of the shaft where the actuator mounts is 10mm diameter, right?
https://na.suzohapp.com/products/joysticks/50-6084-1125R00

You might want to ask Bryan if one of these two options meet your need.
https://paradisearcadeshop.com/products/il-eurojoystick-6mm-hollow-shaft
https://paradisearcadeshop.com/collections/joystick-actuators-shafts/products/iki-ilhapp-led-joystick-shaft-hollow
- The listings don't specify if they will work with a Super, a Competition, or both. (same 10mm diameter, different distance from the bottom of the actuator to the top of the pivot)   
- You might want to calculate the desired distance from the bottom of the pivot stop to the base of the balltop before you contact Bryan.


Scott

Lol, Bank Panic is my sobriety tester.

I have actually done this.  I didn't do anywhere near as well as I thought I would.  Whodathought?

What are the guns you're having troubles with  ?

I don't know that brand, but don't you have any software tool to setup your gun buttons when you're shooting on-screen or out of screen ?

Any other gun I know of (Aimtrak, Sinden, Gun4IR, old EMS Top Gun) allow user to set the gun so that it can send a "Left Click" event when trigger is pressed when the gun is pointing at the screen, and a "Right Click" event when trigger is press when the gun is pointing out of the screen boundaries.
The "offscreen reload" you're trying to get is simply the "right-button click event" detection by DemulShooter.....

Hi argonlefou, Im using the retroshooter reaper lightguns. I looked at the included software unfortunately it only has gun calibration options. So I'm trying to figure out if an alternative solution is possible.

Thank you for the tips, especially the fact that the mounting hole patterns are different.  I already emply a similar method to what is shown on your link to have the shaft protrude further from the panel, since I made it out of 3/4" MDF.  To replace it, I would essentially need to remove all the buttons so that I could lift the polycarbonate top layer.  Yikes!

I'm inclined to get help from a friend who has a CNC machine and see if I can just fabricate a new shaft to my specifications, and then add a Sanwa or Seimitsu ball to that.  Replacing the joystick will need to be a backup plan.

would the Leaf-Pro True Leaf-Switch Joystick from GroovyGameGear be a good option?

No build quality issues with it that I've found, so it comes down to personal preferences.  Slap one on a test panel and see if you like it.   

It's a different mount pattern than Happ -- square, 60mm on hole centers -- but that's not too hard to work around with an adapter plate or a variation on the "Under mount (support blocks)" technique described here in the wiki if you want the balltop to be a bit higher above the panel.

The balltop has a very fine seam that you can barely feel.  Should be easy to polish out if you're so inclined.


Scott

What are the guns you're having troubles with  ?

I don't know that brand, but don't you have any software tool to setup your gun buttons when you're shooting on-screen or out of screen ?

Any other gun I know of (Aimtrak, Sinden, Gun4IR, old EMS Top Gun) allow user to set the gun so that it can send a "Left Click" event when trigger is pressed when the gun is pointing at the screen, and a "Right Click" event when trigger is press when the gun is pointing out of the screen boundaries.
The "offscreen reload" you're trying to get is simply the "right-button click event" detection by DemulShooter.....

Regarding the 4-way stick, I might be better off buying a replacement joystick. 
If I go that route, would the Leaf-Pro True Leaf-Switch Joystick from GroovyGameGear be a good option?

https://groovygamegear.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=65&products_id=365&number_of_uploads=0

Hello, I am trying to get my retroshooter lightguns to do offscreen reload with demul shooter. I noticed it works in some games and not with others and I am wondering if anyone has come up with a solution that would make it work with all demul shooter supported games.

I did some searching around and noticed someone made a vr mod for offscreen reload, and wondering if that could be adapted to the lightguns? https://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,165508.0.html

The other thing I was looking into is if an ahk was possible with maybe a rawinput interception to detect when the mouse hits off the screen? https://github.com/evilC/AutoHotInterception