Post by: Mike A on June 04, 2020, 03:26:41 am
This year has been the worst so far. After the first round of thunderstorms half my basement flooded and the water would not recede. My sump pump ran 24/7 and I was vacuuming up 100+ gallons of water a night.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=383211;image)
I looked up drastic measures on the internet. I saw an effective system was to trench around the interior perimeter of your basement and install drain tile.
Awesome. Demolition. My specialty.
I started doing the math and I determined that a 16 inch trench through 5 inches of concrete over 180 linear feet, AND 40 feet of drain pipe buried outside my house was too much work for me and a friend or two.
Time to hire professionals.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=383214;image)
Trench
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=383213;image)
New sump pit. 2 24 inch basins tied together. New pump and a backup pump.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=383215;image)
New concrete poured.
They also installed drains tied into the new system in all 4 of my window wells.
There is a channel around the entire perimeter of the basement that will catch water from cracks that develop in the basement walls.
Done in 3 days.
Now the new shop will begin to take shape. More posts will follow as things develop.
First I have to wait a day or two longer for the concrete to cure.
Post by: Mike A on June 04, 2020, 03:33:41 am
I ran 3 x 20 amp circuits along the length of my basement.
There are two lines of outlets every ten feet on the ceiling.
The third line runs outlets every ten feet along one wall.
I have 2 x 30 amp 220 circuits running into the new wood shop area.
The wood shop will be 27' x 27'
It will be walled off from the rest of the basement.
More to follow in a day or two.
Post by: opt2not on June 04, 2020, 04:46:39 am
Post by: bperkins01 on June 04, 2020, 06:54:21 am
Post by: jdbailey1206 on June 04, 2020, 10:34:37 am
Post by: Arroyo on June 04, 2020, 01:19:27 pm
Post by: bperkins01 on June 04, 2020, 01:22:13 pm
Post by: Arroyo on June 04, 2020, 01:34:32 pm
Row boat project is cancelled?? :(Just waiting for Mike to get here
Post by: Mike A on June 04, 2020, 01:39:17 pm
Post by: bperkins01 on June 04, 2020, 01:40:32 pm
Post by: Mike A on June 04, 2020, 01:46:11 pm
If only I knew a guy who loves tools, old things, refurbishing, and beer.
Post by: bperkins01 on June 04, 2020, 01:47:29 pm
I have a 1950 something Craftsmen jointer I am going to need help refurbishing.and has a shop 1 square foot bigger than yours..
If only I knew a guy who loves tools, old things, refurbishing, and beer.
Post by: Howard_Casto on June 04, 2020, 02:30:48 pm
Post by: jdbailey1206 on June 04, 2020, 02:53:02 pm
Mine's tiny though... only 12" x 12".
Hey. Thats one square foot! ;D
Post by: pbj on June 06, 2020, 09:07:09 am
:dunno
Post by: Mike A on June 06, 2020, 03:05:40 pm
Post by: Howard_Casto on June 06, 2020, 05:57:26 pm
Post by: pbj on June 06, 2020, 08:10:17 pm
I could be really nuts and move to a city that gets pounded by a hurricane every couple of years, but that is crazy talk. ;)
I live 40 miles inland and didn't even lose power during Harvey.
100% of basements flood.
:dunno
Post by: bperkins01 on June 07, 2020, 08:27:53 am
Owned my house since 93' - Zero floods.I could be really nuts and move to a city that gets pounded by a hurricane every couple of years, but that is crazy talk. ;)
I live 40 miles inland and didn't even lose power during Harvey.
100% of basements flood.
:dunno
The buildings that have flooded basements are typically older and were built before they put better codes in place. Now they measure the highest water level and your basement has to be 2-3' above it. Or better - they basement is put in with proper drainage to begin with and there is never an issue. The just didn't do that in the old days. There are many MANY houses with finished basements that haven't got water in them.. They are just normally newer buildings.
I prefer the space - how all you people live on slabs is weird..
Post by: Titchgamer on June 07, 2020, 09:13:30 am
His is much smaller though lol
Proper nerd dungeon in the making eh? :p
Post by: Mike A on June 07, 2020, 10:05:00 am
Post by: Titchgamer on June 07, 2020, 10:15:02 am
If my basement floods after this I will be shocked. This system can handle a massive amount of water.Should be fine.
Having a decent pump that can handle the head (giggidy) is prob the hardest part.
Post by: leapinlew on June 07, 2020, 05:22:34 pm
The guys that did mine, didn't do as well matching up the concrete as yours. It was messy, so you got that going for you.
What's both pits for? It looks like you have 2 lines going out? I assume there is a backup sump in there or something? One of my Carona projects was to setup my backup sump. I have it exiting out of the house and not tied into the sewer at all and it's battery powered. I don't think I need it, but it gives me piece of mind. The battery backup unit was about $100 and another $100 for a deep cycle battery.
Also, these are great: https://www.amazon.com/Water-Alarm-Electronic-Detector-Detects/dp/B072XVW44W
Post by: Mike A on June 07, 2020, 07:20:42 pm
Yes there is a backup as well.
Post by: jdbailey1206 on June 08, 2020, 09:04:53 am
Post by: nitrogen_widget on July 04, 2020, 08:59:59 am
Except, my basement walls are stone and my floor was dirt.
I dug the dirt out by hand and wheelbarrow'd it out the back.
put in drain tile and filled the whole thing with stone and cement.
It has a 7ft ceiling (slightly less at the beam) but i'm 5'8" so not worried about banging my head.
I was in my early 30's, though. took the week off and literally lost a whole pant size when I was done.
Also, jelly of anyone with a basement that isn't freezing cold in the winter and has wet floors in the warmer months.
Post by: javeryh on August 06, 2020, 02:44:56 pm
I waterproofed as well. My house is coming up on 100 years old. Partial stone walls, brick, etc. When we put an addition on, part of the deal was to dig the 6’ ceilings down to 8.5’ and waterproof the entire basement.
We ended up with the French drain on the inside and 2 sump pumps plus a backup as well as waterproofing the outside of the foundation. We dug all the way down and installed a double membrane on the outside that sticks up about 1’ from ground level. There is also piping that gets pumped out to the street.
It’s been bone dry ever since going on 8 years. We used to have standing water down there every time it rained.
Post by: leapinlew on August 07, 2020, 04:50:56 pm
This is going to be awesome. 27’x27’ is a huge space.
I waterproofed as well. My house is coming up on 100 years old. Partial stone walls, brick, etc. When we put an addition on, part of the deal was to dig the 6’ ceilings down to 8.5’ and waterproof the entire basement.
We ended up with the French drain on the inside and 2 sump pumps plus a backup as well as waterproofing the outside of the foundation. We dug all the way down and installed a double membrane on the outside that sticks up about 1’ from ground level. There is also piping that gets pumped out to the street.
It’s been bone dry ever since going on 8 years. We used to have standing water down there every time it rained.
I still remember like it was yesterday.... you agonizing about moving vs adding on.... you lured us in with your promise of an underground arcade and then what happened? Javery?! THEN WHAT HAPPENED?! You barely have room for your arcade games because you built an awesome theater.
Post by: pbj on August 07, 2020, 05:23:16 pm
Post by: javeryh on August 07, 2020, 05:37:28 pm
This is going to be awesome. 27’x27’ is a huge space.
I waterproofed as well. My house is coming up on 100 years old. Partial stone walls, brick, etc. When we put an addition on, part of the deal was to dig the 6’ ceilings down to 8.5’ and waterproof the entire basement.
We ended up with the French drain on the inside and 2 sump pumps plus a backup as well as waterproofing the outside of the foundation. We dug all the way down and installed a double membrane on the outside that sticks up about 1’ from ground level. There is also piping that gets pumped out to the street.
It’s been bone dry ever since going on 8 years. We used to have standing water down there every time it rained.
I still remember like it was yesterday.... you agonizing about moving vs adding on.... you lured us in with your promise of an underground arcade and then what happened? Javery?! THEN WHAT HAPPENED?! You barely have room for your arcade games because you built an awesome theater.
Ha! Yeah - time is FLYING. My oldest, who I built my first ever cabinet for, is about to turn 16. It's crazy.
No regrets on the theater - we use it every single night. TV, video games and, of course, movies. We do family movies some nights, date night for just the two if us some nights, kids (used to) have friends over and everything in between. It still has the wow factor and we still really enjoy it. I still need to figure out how the equipment works though! I calibrated the receiver with the microphone that came with it and that's it!
Post by: nitrogen_widget on August 08, 2020, 11:25:48 am
Who the hell needs a theater these days? Throw a flat screen and sound bar on the wall and done. I don't think movies are even shot to be seen in theaters anymore. Not like any of us look up from our phone long enough to pay attention anyway.
disney+ is selling live action Mulan later this month instead of showing in theaters.
I expect the Black widow movie will end up the same because putting this option in place for one movie doesn't make sense.
i'd pay $40 or $50 to just be able to watch it at home on opening night.
costs me about $100 to take my two kids to see a movie at the theater and then the youngest ALWAYS needs to pee 3/4 of the way through so I always end up missing something good.
My kids would rather watch a movie on the projector outside in the summer anyways.
Post by: leapinlew on August 08, 2020, 01:11:11 pm
Who the hell needs a theater these days? Throw a flat screen and sound bar on the wall and done. I don't think movies are even shot to be seen in theaters anymore. Not like any of us look up from our phone long enough to pay attention anyway.
disney+ is selling live action Mulan later this month instead of showing in theaters.
I expect the Black widow movie will end up the same because putting this option in place for one movie doesn't make sense.
i'd pay $40 or $50 to just be able to watch it at home on opening night.
costs me about $100 to take my two kids to see a movie at the theater and then the youngest ALWAYS needs to pee 3/4 of the way through so I always end up missing something good.
My kids would rather watch a movie on the projector outside in the summer anyways.
Total derail, but I was surprised to hear the $29 to purchase a movie on a streaming service that charges a monthly fee.
Post by: nitrogen_widget on August 09, 2020, 01:58:29 pm
Who the hell needs a theater these days? Throw a flat screen and sound bar on the wall and done. I don't think movies are even shot to be seen in theaters anymore. Not like any of us look up from our phone long enough to pay attention anyway.
disney+ is selling live action Mulan later this month instead of showing in theaters.
I expect the Black widow movie will end up the same because putting this option in place for one movie doesn't make sense.
i'd pay $40 or $50 to just be able to watch it at home on opening night.
costs me about $100 to take my two kids to see a movie at the theater and then the youngest ALWAYS needs to pee 3/4 of the way through so I always end up missing something good.
My kids would rather watch a movie on the projector outside in the summer anyways.
Total derail, but I was surprised to hear the $29 to purchase a movie on a streaming service that charges a monthly fee.
i'm really not surprised considering the social distancing.
They need to make money for their movies and can't do that if people can't go to theaters or if they can't pack theaters.
but back on the topic of wet basements.
I ended up just digging down by hand where the majority of my water problem is with the basement.
It's where the stone foundation and the concrete addition meet.
looked like they didn't clean the stone wall enough when they put down the forms and there was a roughly 2" gap about a foot long starting a foot below the surface.
i'm guessing it was dirt and got washed out over the yrs.
Packed it with hydraulic cement and no water there after the latest rainfalls!
I still get some trickles here and there in other parts but not anything like the standing water 1/4 to 2" i used to get in that location.
So i've reconsidered using my basement as a workshop for my 3d printers and other projects instead of my dining room.
I need to seal the tops of the rubble foundation with either mortar or great stuff and then insulate the sills because that is where 90% of the cold air comes in.
it's like a breeze in the winter.
then I need to insulate the sills somehow.
Might just box them in and hand fill with cellulose blown in stuff you get for the attic.
not interested in finishing it or using it as living space.
Post by: Howard_Casto on August 09, 2020, 02:16:36 pm
Who the hell needs a theater these days? Throw a flat screen and sound bar on the wall and done. I don't think movies are even shot to be seen in theaters anymore. Not like any of us look up from our phone long enough to pay attention anyway.
disney+ is selling live action Mulan later this month instead of showing in theaters.
I expect the Black widow movie will end up the same because putting this option in place for one movie doesn't make sense.
i'd pay $40 or $50 to just be able to watch it at home on opening night.
costs me about $100 to take my two kids to see a movie at the theater and then the youngest ALWAYS needs to pee 3/4 of the way through so I always end up missing something good.
My kids would rather watch a movie on the projector outside in the summer anyways.
Total derail, but I was surprised to hear the $29 to purchase a movie on a streaming service that charges a monthly fee.
I'm not sure surprising is the right word. If you are surprised that a corporation tries to squeeze as much money out of you as possible then you haven't been paying attention. I think outraged is the better word. The bulk of your high ticket price is supposed to go to the individual theatres to keep local businesses running. Now that theatre chains are digital the only thing Disney or any of the big studios have in sending out a film is having a server system fat enough to send those films out. By charging an additional fee Disney is essentially trying to rob theatre chains of their profit and see if they can make more money via running the middle man out of business. Personally I'm kind of done with both institutions, but if you like theatres don't pay the high prices for immediate release during quarantine.... if the big studios figure out they can circumvent theatre chains they will, and that'll be the beginning of the end.
Post by: BadMouth on August 09, 2020, 03:27:35 pm
Post by: Howard_Casto on August 09, 2020, 03:39:34 pm
Post by: Mike A on August 09, 2020, 06:11:16 pm
I am in the process of installing a new audio system in my shop. I have 2 speakers mounted so far.
I have a home theater amp that I am running in 7 channel stereo mode.
I am pushing 7 ceiling mounted 3 way speakers with it.
I am also outputting the signal to a 300 watt keyboard amp with a 15 inch woofer.
That should do it.
I have all of the industrial shelving in place. I just need to start organizing. That is my weak point. I am messy. It bothers me.
I need to build a new electronics workbench.
I need to reroute some water and gas pipes due to unrelated issues.
I will post some pics this week.
Post by: Mike A on August 09, 2020, 08:40:16 pm
I couldn't afford sharks with frickin' laser beams attached to their heads.
I couldn't even afford ill-tempered sea bass with frickin' laser beams attached to their heads.
I had to settle for ravenous koi without lasers.
They guard my shop from the confines of their 300 gallon tub.
Post by: Mike A on August 09, 2020, 09:01:26 pm
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=384126;image)
Post by: javeryh on August 10, 2020, 10:28:50 am
Post by: nitrogen_widget on August 10, 2020, 07:22:11 pm
Holy crap I’m jealous. So many monitors!
So much visible floor!
Post by: Mike A on August 11, 2020, 07:17:35 am
We had a good sized thunderstorm move through here.
there were 80 mph winds, and torrential rain.
I lost power for more than twelve hours. It came back on about 5am.
I couldn't afford a backup generator so I had to hope the drainage system on its own was relieving hydrostatic pressure enough to prevent flooding.
My basement was bone dry when I left for work this morning.
If this storm would have hit last year I would have needed scuba gear down there.
Next year's budget includes a whole house generator.
Post by: jennifer on August 11, 2020, 11:07:36 am
Post by: jdbailey1206 on September 22, 2020, 08:56:52 am
Post by: Mike A on September 22, 2020, 09:08:30 am
Post by: jdbailey1206 on September 22, 2020, 03:44:57 pm
I will take some pics tonight and post them.(https://i.imgur.com/GLDW0VD.gif)
Post by: Mike A on September 23, 2020, 09:22:08 am
I am not finished yet. I am spending a lot of time on my Indy 500 project.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=384772;image)
Here is my workbench so far. I still need to mount a monitor for displaying schematics and porn. It will mount right next to the surge strip.
That row of CRTs from a previous pic is behind the pegboard.
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=384773;image)
The wood shop is a mess. Lots of stuff is still packed up, I need to ceiling mount my industrial air cleaner, I need to put up a couple of runs of pegboard.
Post by: bperkins01 on September 23, 2020, 09:26:02 am
... I still need to mount a monitor for displaying schematics and porn. It will mount right next to the surge strip.
Porn next to the surge strip ... somehow that's funny.. :laugh2:
Post by: J_K_M_A_N on September 23, 2020, 11:36:02 am
J_K_M_A_N
Post by: Mike A on September 23, 2020, 11:44:08 am
It turns out I got over that notion pretty quickly.
Post by: J_K_M_A_N on September 23, 2020, 01:53:52 pm
Yeah. When I first moved in I thought about tearing everything out and starting over.
It turns out I got over that notion pretty quickly.
I can certainly understand that. :) It will only bug you for a couple days usually. Then you don't even notice. Unless they hit you in the head. Then it would drive me crazy.
J_K_M_A_N
Post by: pbj on September 23, 2020, 10:11:41 pm
More pegboard. Floor to ceiling pegboard.
Post by: Mike A on September 23, 2020, 10:23:10 pm
Post by: BadMouth on September 24, 2020, 08:08:48 am
At least he isn't one of those people who run every single device in the house on wifi. (at least I hope most of that is just data)
I had a similar mess where my modem and switch are mounted to a floor joist. It's still a mess, but it's all wrapped up in velcro straps and not hanging down anymore.
Post by: Mike A on September 24, 2020, 08:21:38 am
Post by: Howard_Casto on September 24, 2020, 02:57:05 pm
Post by: BadMouth on September 25, 2020, 12:43:38 pm
When I see a "mess" like that I just think it's a space that's actually being used. A clean workspace typically means an unused workspace.I must be killing it at the moment then....
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200925/1697aedddeaa825908f30d7608c2011e.jpg)
Post by: Mike A on October 13, 2020, 11:20:22 am
My 300 watt keyboard amp is working as a subwoofer right now. I still need to buy a real sub or maybe 2 subs to fill that space.
It sounds pretty damn good right now.
I will post some pics tonight.
Post by: Mike A on October 14, 2020, 07:00:40 am
Post by: jdbailey1206 on October 14, 2020, 08:14:31 am
Oops. I forgot to take new pics and post them. I will try to remember tonight.
Have jennifer stop by on her trip through the US. She can take some.
Post by: Mike A on October 14, 2020, 08:16:49 am
Post by: jennifer on October 14, 2020, 02:13:16 pm
Post by: Arroyo on October 14, 2020, 02:18:12 pm
Post by: Mike A on October 14, 2020, 02:29:25 pm
The little unibomber light is cute, But Omg, that shop is depressing, Think you got enough pegboard yet?, the floor seems to have water damaged cement and ceiling seems quite low for working on games (more pegboard perhaps?)...But my favorite, is the no pics of your 300 watt Walmart amp, after all that hype and the world doesn't even get a pic of your greatness...Now that is funny... :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:
It isn't a Walmart amp. It is a keyboard amp. I will take a pic tonight and post it for you.
It is also temporary. I really need 2 subs to get the low end punch I need.
Post by: jdbailey1206 on October 15, 2020, 03:42:01 pm
Oops. I forgot to take new pics and post them. I will try to remember tonight.FTFY
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=159740.0;attach=385082;image)
Post by: jennifer on October 26, 2020, 10:01:04 pm