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Title: Donkey Kong & Bubble Bobble Bartop thoughts!
Post by: honkbahh on April 25, 2017, 06:32:48 pm
Howdy!

I've recently launched my project http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,154064.0.html (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,154064.0.html) and am thinking about artwork. I really love classic designs. Any thoughts on some type of donkey kong and bubble bobble hybrid? Here are some pics I really like. I know it's a little crazy, but anyone think it can be done well? I'll take any suggestions!

(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa105/stuzza12/Bartop%20Donkey%20Kong/DSC05332.jpg)

(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa105/stuzza12/Bartop%20Donkey%20Kong/BartopAllArtwork.png)

(http://arcadecabinetmachine.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/bubble-bobble-demo-300x300.jpg)

this one is a little too delicious

(http://arcadecabinetmachine.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/new-mini-bartop-mame-hyperspin-bobble-bubble-arcade.jpg)
Title: Re: Donkey Kong & Bubble Bobble Bartop thoughts!
Post by: honkbahh on April 29, 2017, 11:59:32 pm
Here is something I threw together to see if the concept could work. The blue seems pretty harsh. Ignore the green bars, they will be covered. Suggestions please! (http://i64.tinypic.com/v3mvqw.jpg)
Title: Re: Donkey Kong & Bubble Bobble Bartop thoughts!
Post by: rootbeer on May 05, 2017, 12:11:28 am
I think cabinet art looks nicest when it appears to come from one single artist. The DK and BB art are pretty different styles, and don't mesh well to my taste. A single art theme would look nicer.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong & Bubble Bobble Bartop thoughts!
Post by: Titchgamer on May 05, 2017, 02:45:01 am
In my mind this is not going to work.
But throw together some ideas and see what they look like,
Title: Re: Donkey Kong & Bubble Bobble Bartop thoughts!
Post by: honkbahh on May 08, 2017, 01:45:11 pm
Thanks for the replies so far! I'll get some more pics going. So far its mostly doing them separately, but here is a white background

(https://sites.google.com/site/arcadepicshonkbahh/home/Marquee-DK-BB-white.jpg)
Title: Re: Donkey Kong & Bubble Bobble Bartop thoughts!
Post by: honkbahh on May 08, 2017, 01:58:50 pm
More for each game. Any suggestions?

(https://sites.google.com/site/arcadepicshonkbahh/home/side%20right%20DK.jpg)

(https://sites.google.com/site/arcadepicshonkbahh/home/side%20BB%20trimmed.jpg)
Title: Re: Donkey Kong & Bubble Bobble Bartop thoughts!
Post by: rootbeer on May 08, 2017, 04:41:52 pm
Either of the side art pieces look fine individually. Personally, I wouldn't combine them.

The white background on the marquee looks more like an unfinished area than an intentionally white background.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong & Bubble Bobble Bartop thoughts!
Post by: honkbahh on May 08, 2017, 11:09:42 pm
Im considering one side DK and the other BB. Not sure what i'd do with the marquee, admin, and CP though.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong & Bubble Bobble Bartop thoughts!
Post by: Mike A on May 08, 2017, 11:18:05 pm
Just pick one or the other. It will look much better.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong & Bubble Bobble Bartop thoughts!
Post by: BorgDog on May 09, 2017, 09:04:56 am
despite all the naysayers I like the combo of the two, but need to make it Donkey Bobble and/or Bubble Kong.  j/k I do think they can work together and be just fine. the earlier version of the marquee looked better imho without the white stripe down the middle, although one thing you may want to try to get the artwork to blend better is lose the gradients on the BB art, put in solid fills like on DK, and don't have the two BB guys (whatever they are) be the same size on the marquee, make one smaller set off to add some depth like on the DK side, and maybe add another BB character on the marque for balance, small though.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong & Bubble Bobble Bartop thoughts!
Post by: yotsuya on May 09, 2017, 09:50:12 am
Pick one game and go with it. When you start to jumble stuff up, it looks like you can't make up your mind. If you're going to mash up two totally different games, hell, you might as well go full collage.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong & Bubble Bobble Bartop thoughts!
Post by: JDFan on May 09, 2017, 09:56:27 am
Im considering one side DK and the other BB. Not sure what i'd do with the marquee, admin, and CP though.

Right now it looks like they are both the same side - also if you do go that direction be sure the proper side lines up with the proper side of the marquee !
Title: Re: Donkey Kong & Bubble Bobble Bartop thoughts!
Post by: honkbahh on May 09, 2017, 11:12:55 am
This topic is bumping now! Thanks for all the suggestions. The truth is I really cannot make up my mind. I also like the collage idea, but I have not really seen any I like online, and from what I've tried to do on my own I don't have the skills to have any cohesiveness. They are just a bunch of pictures floating in space.

-To the point of both being the right side. Thats right! I'm just going to make both designs and hope that maybe during that process I'll make up my mind.

-Also an excellent point to make sure that if I do the two theme marquee to make sure the correct sides line up.

-I think/hope I can figure out the gradient thing. I assume it would just result in a solid color?

How about the combo name of Bonky Bong? No good? How about Dogble Koble?
Title: Re: Donkey Kong & Bubble Bobble Bartop thoughts!
Post by: honkbahh on May 09, 2017, 04:35:38 pm
Here is some collage inspirations. Any type of feedback is useful! I don't know what the hell I am doing. Also, I agree a solid color would look nicer, so I'll get on that regardless of which I choose. I'm not married to anything, just throwing ideas out there!

collage marquee (no background decided)
(https://sites.google.com/site/arcadepicshonkbahh/home/Marquee%20template%20awkward.jpg)

Collage Marquee with random blue background
(https://sites.google.com/site/arcadepicshonkbahh/home/Marquee%20template%20awkwardv2.jpg)


(https://sites.google.com/site/arcadepicshonkbahh/home/side%20right%20BB%20base%20v2.jpg)


(https://sites.google.com/site/arcadepicshonkbahh/home/side%20right%20BB%20base.jpg)

(https://sites.google.com/site/arcadepicshonkbahh/home/side%20right%20collage%20DK%20base%20v2.jpg)
Title: Re: Donkey Kong & Bubble Bobble Bartop thoughts!
Post by: Mike A on May 09, 2017, 04:53:56 pm
Collages are always garbage. What is wrong with picking one subject and making it look good?
Title: Re: Donkey Kong & Bubble Bobble Bartop thoughts!
Post by: honkbahh on May 09, 2017, 05:38:39 pm
Collages are always garbage. What is wrong with picking one subject and making it look good?

I cannot say you are wrong. I just love a lot of these things and have trouble picking something. I'm hoping that even just creating stuff will help me pick.

As far as making it look good that'll be the challenge for me. The DK and BB I created myself but had help with resources and just copied the composition and such (especially with the DK).
Title: Re: Donkey Kong & Bubble Bobble Bartop thoughts!
Post by: Mike A on May 09, 2017, 05:44:55 pm
Both of the ones you put together are far better than the collages.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong & Bubble Bobble Bartop thoughts!
Post by: yotsuya on May 09, 2017, 07:36:34 pm
I was being sarcastic about going full collage.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong & Bubble Bobble Bartop thoughts!
Post by: Mike A on May 09, 2017, 07:39:40 pm
Never go full collage man.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong & Bubble Bobble Bartop thoughts!
Post by: yotsuya on May 09, 2017, 07:53:53 pm
Whatever happened to unique names and custom designs? Why must every new cab seem to be a homage to some classic that already exists? I want more Vertical Retraces and Mission Controls. At least  Chito's monstrosity has a custom name and theme.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong & Bubble Bobble Bartop thoughts!
Post by: jtslade on May 09, 2017, 08:26:27 pm
Peel and stick?


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Title: Re: Donkey Kong & Bubble Bobble Bartop thoughts!
Post by: honkbahh on May 09, 2017, 10:58:43 pm
Whatever happened to unique names and custom designs? Why must every new cab seem to be a homage to some classic that already exists? I want more Vertical Retraces and Mission Controls. At least  Chito's monstrosity has a custom name and theme.

Unique Name: Dogble Koble

Unique Design:
I'm not capable of this
Title: Re: Donkey Kong & Bubble Bobble Bartop thoughts!
Post by: honkbahh on May 09, 2017, 10:59:59 pm
Peel and stick?


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Hi, could you clarify this. I have not researched methods for actually getting art on the cabinet yet. Thanks!
Title: Re: Donkey Kong & Bubble Bobble Bartop thoughts!
Post by: BorgDog on May 10, 2017, 08:24:47 am
I want more Vertical Retraces and Mission Controls.

You seem to forget that this has absolutely nothing to do with what you want, it's about what the Op wants, and if he wants to build an homage to an old game then that's cool, has it been done by countless others? yes, there's a reason.  If he wants to build a collage, well that's not so great in yours or most other people opinions but it is his to build and use and enjoy. There is a difference between constructive criticism and telling someone what they are trying to do is crap.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong & Bubble Bobble Bartop thoughts!
Post by: yotsuya on May 10, 2017, 08:49:06 am
I want more Vertical Retraces and Mission Controls.

You seem to forget that this has absolutely nothing to do with what you want, it's about what the Op wants, and if he wants to build an homage to an old game then that's cool, has it been done by countless others? yes, there's a reason.  If he wants to build a collage, well that's not so great in yours or most other people opinions but it is his to build and use and enjoy. There is a difference between constructive criticism and telling someone what they are trying to do is crap.
Thank you for the lecture. Anything else you want to tell me to do?

I  mean, God forbid we should try to plant the seed of thinking of an original theme, especially when the OP is clearly so undecided on what he wants to do...
Title: Re: Donkey Kong & Bubble Bobble Bartop thoughts!
Post by: Mike A on May 10, 2017, 08:51:37 am
This is like a flashback to my childhood. I would do something and my little brother would get blamed.

I was far more critical, yet Yots gets lectured.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong & Bubble Bobble Bartop thoughts!
Post by: honkbahh on May 10, 2017, 10:43:46 am
I didn't really feel anyone was being critical or insulting. I want the arcade to feel and look like a late 80s & 90s arcade, and while I am sure it can be done really well with an original design, it's nothing I am capable of, so I'm just trying to go with characters and designs that make be feel good, but also don't look like ass.

The tips from BorgDog about the gradient and solid fill and resizing are really helpful, and I'll get on that soon!

As for full collage, a lot of times I find myself in the more is more category, but I don't think there is any way I could make something I'd be happy with. I think once I work on the CP I'll get some clarity. Or not.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong & Bubble Bobble Bartop thoughts!
Post by: markc74 on May 10, 2017, 11:57:52 am
Full collages are *really* hard to do. It would take a serious amount of skill (and time/money) to get something you like. Believe me - i tried and I've been using photoshop for nigh on 20 years.

If you're totally sold on the bubble bobble / donkey Kong then then just chuck an artwork on each side and split the control panel/ marquee in the middle with some sort of divider. It won't look great but it's the best you're gonna get with the 2 contrasting art styles.

Alternatively, look up some of the other Bartop art and see if you can use that instead. There's loads out there and you can probably buy it pre designed and printed.

TLDR: what you're looking for cannot be done unless you spend big money commissioning someone to do it.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong & Bubble Bobble Bartop thoughts!
Post by: honkbahh on May 11, 2017, 11:47:10 am
I am officially going with a mix of donkey kong and bubble bobble. I made some suggested changes. I chose this blue because I thought it matched nicely with the blue on some donkey kong cabs and bubble bobble. I'd like you guy help me make it not fugly. Thanks!

(https://sites.google.com/site/arcadepicshonkbahh/home/Marquee-DK-BB-Split-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Donkey Kong & Bubble Bobble Bartop thoughts!
Post by: honkbahh on May 11, 2017, 12:02:20 pm
Matching bubble bobble side

(https://sites.google.com/site/arcadepicshonkbahh/home/side%20BB%20trimmed.jpg)
Title: Re: Donkey Kong & Bubble Bobble Bartop thoughts!
Post by: Mike A on May 11, 2017, 01:31:02 pm
 :banghead:
Title: Re: Donkey Kong & Bubble Bobble Bartop thoughts!
Post by: honkbahh on May 11, 2017, 01:41:50 pm
:banghead:

The heart wants what the heart wants.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong & Bubble Bobble Bartop thoughts!
Post by: honkbahh on May 11, 2017, 01:44:05 pm
:banghead:

The heart wants what the heart wants.

Also a shout-out to yotsuya for helping me follow my dreams! I don't really care about uniqueness, but it will end up being unique!

Either way i'm looking for suggestions!
Title: Re: Donkey Kong & Bubble Bobble Bartop thoughts!
Post by: Mike A on May 11, 2017, 01:46:57 pm
Hire a professional artist to design the side art to integrate the two games. That is the only way it doesn't turn out looking like donkey  :censored:.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong & Bubble Bobble Bartop thoughts!
Post by: honkbahh on May 11, 2017, 02:06:30 pm
Hire a professional artist to design the side art to integrate the two games. That is the only way it doesn't turn out looking like donkey  :censored:.

Any ideas of cost and turn around time?
Title: Re: Donkey Kong & Bubble Bobble Bartop thoughts!
Post by: honkbahh on May 11, 2017, 02:11:11 pm
Here is the DK with the blue. I think it looks really nice!

(https://sites.google.com/site/arcadepicshonkbahh/home/side%20right%20DK-blue.jpg)
Title: Re: Donkey Kong & Bubble Bobble Bartop thoughts!
Post by: Mike A on May 11, 2017, 02:17:05 pm
You could post an inquiry in the artwork section on this forum. You could inquire at a place like deviantart.com. it's not cheap and it takes time, but in my opinion it is worth it. That is totally up to you. Good luck with whatever you decide to do.

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Title: Re: Donkey Kong & Bubble Bobble Bartop thoughts!
Post by: yamatetsu on May 11, 2017, 03:22:07 pm
My take on the marquee. I would add black outlines to all characters like the one the robot has, but I'm unable to do that.
So just pretend that they are there  :)

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=149895.0;attach=358737)
Title: Re: Donkey Kong & Bubble Bobble Bartop thoughts!
Post by: honkbahh on May 11, 2017, 04:27:11 pm
My take on the marquee. I would add black outlines to all characters like the one the robot has, but I'm unable to do that.
So just pretend that they are there  :)

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=149895.0;attach=358737)

Thanks for the feedback! I have no idea how you were able to throw that together so fast. Flipping the mario and changing the spacing of the Donkey Kong would take some time as it is all one object. I'd have to go back to the vectors and try to import them separately.

As to your point of adding a black outline like the robot and the bubbles have, I hadn't even noticed, but its a great point. I have no idea how to do that though. I'll do some googling and see if there is an easy way to accomplish it.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong & Bubble Bobble Bartop thoughts!
Post by: honkbahh on May 11, 2017, 04:30:49 pm
Also I should re-mention that the top and bottom 1/2 inch will be covered, so I don't have much extra room unless I shrink my existing DK stuff.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong & Bubble Bobble Bartop thoughts!
Post by: honkbahh on May 11, 2017, 06:07:57 pm
Control Panel concept. Suggestions please!

(https://sites.google.com/site/arcadepicshonkbahh/home/Widescreen_control_panel%20DK-BB-v2.jpg)
Title: Re: Donkey Kong & Bubble Bobble Bartop thoughts!
Post by: yotsuya on May 11, 2017, 06:45:54 pm
:banghead:

The heart wants what the heart wants.

Also a shout-out to yotsuya for helping me follow my dreams! I don't really care about uniqueness, but it will end up being unique!

Either way i'm looking for suggestions!
Build what you dig, brother man. Build what you dig.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong & Bubble Bobble Bartop thoughts!
Post by: honkbahh on May 14, 2017, 02:05:32 am
Here are 6 control panels. 3 different button colors, and variations on the stripes. Please give some input!

****I added a poll!****

1
(https://sites.google.com/site/arcadepicshonkbahh/home/A%20Widescreen_control_panel%20DK-BB-v3%20blue%202.jpg)
2
(https://sites.google.com/site/arcadepicshonkbahh/home/A%20Widescreen_control_panel%20DK-BB-v3%20blue%204.jpg)
3
(https://sites.google.com/site/arcadepicshonkbahh/home/A%20Widescreen_control_panel%20DK-BB-v3%20blue%20yellow%202%20stripe.jpg)
4
(https://sites.google.com/site/arcadepicshonkbahh/home/A%20Widescreen_control_panel%20DK-BB-v3%20blue%20yellow%204%20stripe.jpg)
5
(https://sites.google.com/site/arcadepicshonkbahh/home/A%20Widescreen_control_panel%20DK-BB-v3%20red%202.jpg)
6
(https://sites.google.com/site/arcadepicshonkbahh/home/A%20Widescreen_control_panel%20DK-BB-v3%20red%204.jpg)
Title: Re: Donkey Kong & Bubble Bobble Bartop thoughts!
Post by: yamatetsu on May 14, 2017, 08:45:37 am
Option #7 : Go with a color scheme that matches that of the marquee.

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=149895.0;attach=358783)

Note : Kicked the Nintendo logo on the left side, this is a build for two games, not for a company.

Note #2 : As an afterthought, maybe add some bubbles to the CP, it looks a bit plain right now.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong & Bubble Bobble Bartop thoughts!
Post by: JDFan on May 14, 2017, 10:38:33 am
The coloring of the Mario and DK characters on the side art and Paulines hair color does not match what is on the CP and Marquee.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong & Bubble Bobble Bartop thoughts!
Post by: honkbahh on May 14, 2017, 11:25:56 am
The coloring of the Mario and DK characters on the side art and Paulines hair color does not match what is on the CP and Marquee.

I'll double check that. Might just be a compression thing. Thanks!
Title: Re: Donkey Kong & Bubble Bobble Bartop thoughts!
Post by: rootbeer on May 14, 2017, 11:35:53 am
The coloring of the Mario and DK characters on the side art and Paulines hair color does not match what is on the CP and Marquee.

Similarly, colouring on DK, Mario, and the barrels differs between the side art and the marquee/CP. And the DK text is red on the side, blue on the marquee.

The unification of the stripe colours between the marquee and CP was a good idea. You might want to do the same for the stripes on the DK side art.
Title: Re: Donkey Kong & Bubble Bobble Bartop thoughts!
Post by: honkbahh on May 15, 2017, 02:27:57 am
Lots of updates, including Paulina hair changes, Mario outfit changes, sizing... Please let me know your opinion on red vs blue, or any combinaton of both (either buttons or DK lettering). Thanks!

(https://sites.google.com/site/arcadepicshonkbahh/home/all-blue.jpg)


(https://sites.google.com/site/arcadepicshonkbahh/home/all-red.jpg)
Title: Re: Donkey Kong & Bubble Bobble Bartop thoughts!
Post by: honkbahh on May 16, 2017, 04:35:05 pm
More scaling and color changes. Please give some suggestions/opinions!

(https://sites.google.com/site/arcadepicshonkbahh/home/all-blue-white.jpg)


(https://sites.google.com/site/arcadepicshonkbahh/home/all-red-white.jpg)
Title: Re: Donkey Kong & Bubble Bobble Bartop thoughts!
Post by: honkbahh on May 23, 2017, 01:52:57 am
Final Design
Title: Re: Donkey Kong & Bubble Bobble Bartop thoughts!
Post by: yamatetsu on May 23, 2017, 04:55:00 pm
Some bubbles in the marquee seem to be deformed. It's not very noticable on the screen, but it probably will stick out if you print it lifesize.