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Title: Lightgun games NES and Master System working in MAME with aimtrak!
Post by: gstav on October 09, 2018, 11:09:31 am
I modified this post a bit since I got Sega Master System and Nintendo Entertainment System to work in MAME .200
Read down below how!

Though I still want to play some PSX lightgun games in Retroarch (or other emu) using my Aimtrak light gun!


Sony Playstation
"Time Crisis - Project Titan" and "Point Blank 3")
(https://i.postimg.cc/YSMtC9vM/4da24c94-0206-11e4-9a77-29295d8d144b_1_1.jpg) (https://i.postimg.cc/xCsf72TY/point_blank_3_1.jpg)

I got some titles working in the PCSX-Reloaded emulator, but I cant start all games in that emu, also I think I read about people playing in Retroarch.

So please!! If anyone have the knowledge about any of this, let me know.

What emu version, core used or magic spell is needed.

Thanks for any input!
Title: Re: Lightgun and Retroarch, anyone got it working
Post by: DarthMarino on October 10, 2018, 10:10:39 pm
You can just use MAME for the Master System games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PECMAKL33rI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PECMAKL33rI)
Title: Re: Lightgun and Retroarch, anyone got it working
Post by: gstav on October 11, 2018, 02:02:25 pm
You can just use MAME for the Master System games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PECMAKL33rI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PECMAKL33rI)

Thanks for the heads up friend. Got it going fairly quick in MAME directly, but it wasn't the easiest to set it with RocketLauncher as the module
is more strict with paths and rom names.  ;D

Sega Master System is now running perfectly in MAME (For my lightgun games)

If I may, Did you have any luck with SNES and NES lightgun? SMS worked directly,
but I could not get it to work with the others even when I changed the inout to Super Scope and Zapper.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Lightgun games NES and Master System working in MAME with aimtrak!
Post by: gstav on October 11, 2018, 04:46:32 pm
As Sega Master System starts with the lightgun zapper as controller it flies directly in MAME,
but SNES (which sadly still is broken) and NES both boots up with standard controllers and you have to manually change to lightgun in the TAB-manu, which is not that desirable when booting from a frontend.

The solution is to add a command string to RocketLauncher in the Global MAME.ahk setting for the NES system under parameters

-ctrl2 zapper

or for command box starting Duck Hunt: mame.exe -ctrl2 zapper duckhunt

This now will plug in the zapper in port 2 which is the port to use for zappers for nintendo games. *Great* now to play Duck Hunt with MAME crosshairs!

(https://i.postimg.cc/Hx9rfDTT/Zf-Gf-JQU-1.png)
Title: Re: Lightgun games NES and Master System working in MAME with aimtrak!
Post by: DarthMarino on October 16, 2018, 06:06:37 pm
The Super Scope doesn't work properly in MAME.  I use SNES9X. The game Super Scope 6 has issues in that program with the 3 Blastris Games.  They work but it's not very responsive.
Title: Re: Lightgun games NES and Master System working in MAME with aimtrak!
Post by: gstav on October 17, 2018, 08:44:59 am
Thanx! I got it working pretty well in window full-screen mode. Great!!
Now I just have to get ePSXe going now and I'm all set Pcsx-r works but not with all titles and stutters on my rig. Believe ePSXe is faster what I can see!  :angel:
Title: Re: Lightgun games NES and Master System working in MAME with aimtrak!
Post by: mike boss on October 22, 2018, 09:53:33 am
Thank you for sharing the info.
I plan to review this thread in detail when I'm home.
Personally I've finally got my Aim Trak modules installed into my GunCon shells.
I've got them working with NES games, all be it the emulator I'm using escapes me now.
I've still got to configure MAME, but I'd love to get Sega Master System and Genesis gun games working. So I appreciate the info.
PS1 games would be awesome, however I'm unsure if my PC has the power to play them.

Title: Re: Lightgun games NES and Master System working in MAME with aimtrak!
Post by: gstav on October 22, 2018, 11:15:56 am
Both Sega Master System AND Nintendo Entertainment System All work perfect in the newer MAME with MESS integration! Well worth the hassle.

here's how I made it working and also in Rocketlauncher:

Example for Sega Master System

* Place correct named ROMs in roms/SYSTEMNAME ex E:\GAMES\MAME\roms\sms
Correct names can be found in /hash/SYSTEMNAME ex. sms.xml

* Place BIOS in roms/ folder ex. /roms/sms.zip

In rocketlauncher...

* In Emulator, add directory to MAME/roms/SYSTEM ex. /MAME/roms/sms

* for SYSTEM (ex. Sega Master System) "edit global module settings" for MAME.ahk and set

"UseSoftwareList TRUE"

Start witht the ZAPPER on the NES system (Also playable in newer MAME)

Also, if you want to change controller to a system who starts with a different gaming device
add this to parameters. ex NES to start with Zapper in port#2 which is the standard setup for NES lightgun games

-ctrl2 zapper

DONE

Also, remeber to rename all your HyperSpin media and if used - tags in your LEDBlinkyControls.xml[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Lightgun games NES and Master System working in MAME with aimtrak!
Post by: gstav on October 23, 2018, 05:42:55 am
Here is to vids of me playing NES (Duck Hunt) and SMS (Gangster Town) in MAME0.200

(https://i.postimg.cc/5NZKh9wP/NES-Zapper.png)
Duck Hunt
https://youtu.be/n2XYgh6QlfM

(https://i.postimg.cc/vBkSGGJH/gallery-gaming-sega-light-phaser.png)
Gangster Town
https://youtu.be/enxXG5mw3ug
Title: Re: Lightgun games NES and Master System working in MAME with aimtrak!
Post by: MrLightgun on November 21, 2018, 06:23:43 am
Great, thanks for sharing, it's amazing how you can spend so much time browsing retro threads and yet completely miss something like this.  I currently use FCEUX for NES lightgun games but it draws a cursor at the location of the shot which I haven't been able to switch off.  I should be able to completely remove it in Mame.

The Duck Hunt video looked really good on your cabinet.

Can anyone recommend any Sega Master System lightgun games?  I'll give Gangster Town a go :-)
Title: Re: Lightgun games NES and Master System working in MAME with aimtrak!
Post by: gstav on November 21, 2018, 07:49:51 am
Yes, as you run them in MAME you have the option to completely remove the crosshair!  ;D

I only want games that is not arcade ports but originals to that system as you still have the arcade title anyways.

Gangster Town is super hard. I mean. it's hard even with the crosshair on and full auto cheat. Gimme a break Sega!!! Harder than an arcade title!  :dizzy:
(https://www.mobygames.com/images/covers/l/19040-gangster-town-sega-master-system-front-cover.jpg)

Laser Ghost, as it is a different game than the arcade. Never got it to work properly in MAME so please tell me how if you get the Aimtraks going on this:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/HlBYo5cOON7qGxb9t3WiCFd9XN4D3yP7frDvQtoYLGqUUYxm1xAWr3ynWnSb35fGPg)

Missile Defens 3D
(http://www.gametronik.com/site/rubriques/master_system/Jeux/Missile%20Defense%203D/Scans/Missile%20Defense%203D.jpg)

Rabmo III
Great Operation WOLF clone on the system
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Uq_8PyYeltiDn4Fe9zrlwRk4ipbpSnN6PZ_7lJihNvvJixq6CdnzXC4xEIwXzfCBgg)

Rescue Mission
(http://www.smspower.org/uploads/Scans/RescueMission-SMS-EU-NoLimits-medium.jpg)

Marksman Shooting & Trap Shooting
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/2c/Marksman_Trap.jpg/220px-Marksman_Trap.jpg (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/2c/Marksman_Trap.jpg/220px-Marksman_Trap.jpg)

Wanted!
(http://image.jeuxvideo.com/images-sm/ms/w/a/wantms0f.jpg)

Here's the full system list from wiki  :angel:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_gun_games#Sega_Master_System (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_gun_games#Sega_Master_System)
Title: Re: Lightgun games NES and Master System working in MAME with aimtrak!
Post by: phasermaniac on November 21, 2018, 01:57:22 pm
For nes, there are some great, I think korean games, like Cobra mission, World of Jurassic, Lethal weapon, some multigame cartridge by Asdler and more. Theres also some homebrew games like Russian rulette.
Im still using fceux because some game with offscreen reload didnt work for me in Mame (tested long ago)

In sms my favourite game its Marksman Shooting. I reached level 20 and I was a little drunk

For Megadrive I use Genesis plus... core in Retroarch

For Snes Snes9x. It seems that late versions supports Macs Rifle too, but I couldn't remove crosshairs, which I succed long ago with v 1.43, I think.
Title: Re: Lightgun games NES and Master System working in MAME with aimtrak!
Post by: mike boss on November 21, 2018, 02:00:18 pm
Thank you again for posting/sharing this information.
I haven't had a chance yet to attempt this, but I look forward to having Sega Master System working soon! Next to tackle Sega Genesis & Playstation........ but  you gotta crawl before you walk ! lol
Title: Re: Lightgun games NES and Master System working in MAME with aimtrak!
Post by: gstav on November 21, 2018, 02:21:45 pm
Do you run Sega Master System in retroarch? I had it working previously but after update it broke the zapper support. Which version do you have on your retroarch and core?  :(
Title: Re: Lightgun games NES and Master System working in MAME with aimtrak!
Post by: phasermaniac on November 22, 2018, 02:11:30 am
I use retroarch only for Megadrive
Title: Re: Lightgun games NES and Master System working in MAME with aimtrak!
Post by: mike boss on November 22, 2018, 11:04:27 am
Currently I'm running Mala + Mame v .124
I have two Aim Trak guns set up, which I have to finalize the set up in MAME.
I don't recall which emulator I have for NES, but I do no it was/is working flawlessly.
No special configuration was needed. I was playing Duck Hunt with ZERO issues.
I have The House of the Dead PC versions, for HOTD 1, HOTD II, HOTD III.
I need to install the Troubleshooter patch and get that fully configured also.

As far as Sega Master System and Genesis go, I have Fusion installed.
But I know I won't get gun support with Fusion so I'm looking for alternatives
for SMS + Genesis.
Title: Re: Lightgun games NES and Master System working in MAME with aimtrak!
Post by: Gemadef on April 21, 2020, 01:53:53 pm
sorry for replying to an old post but I need some good advice on how to play NES games (https://www.gamulator.com/roms/nes) on my PC. I don't want to have a lightgun to work for shooting I just want to play this kind of games on my PC. if anyone has some editorial on how to play this kind of retro NES games pls share it in the comment so I can check them, editorials from youtube are more appreciated
Title: Re: Lightgun games NES and Master System working in MAME with aimtrak!
Post by: gstav on April 27, 2020, 02:55:35 pm
kinda OT but I woudl use retroarch as the filters is quite good formimic old CRT TVs,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyKxGdHPEfc
Title: Re: Lightgun games NES and Master System working in MAME with aimtrak!
Post by: pbj on April 27, 2020, 04:36:22 pm
Today I learned about Wanted and Laser Ghost on SMS.  I think I had already moved on to Genesis but those games look pretty fun.

Title: Re: Lightgun and Retroarch, anyone got it working
Post by: Jardielsilva on October 04, 2020, 02:07:44 pm
You can just use MAME for the Master System games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PECMAKL33rI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PECMAKL33rI)

Thanks for the heads up friend. Got it going fairly quick in MAME directly, but it wasn't the easiest to set it with RocketLauncher as the module
is more strict with paths and rom names.  ;D

Sega Master System is now running perfectly in MAME (For my lightgun games)

If I may, Did you have any luck with SNES and NES lightgun? SMS worked directly,
but I could not get it to work with the others even when I changed the inout to Super Scope and Zapper.

Cheers!


how did you configure the mame to recognize the gun?