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Main => Main Forum => Topic started by: sonnydaze on September 22, 2011, 12:29:38 am
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im looking to replace my wells gardner k7191 with a pc monitor , what monitor would be best ? does anyone make 25 4,3 monitor or do i need to put in a 22 ws monitor
if anyone has a 22 lcd ws in a 25 inch cab cab you post pics please
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The largest LCD 4:3 is 21.3 inch, but these are very expensive, but is has 55mm more vertical height than a 21.5 inch FullHD display!
The largest 4:3 image can be had with a 27 inch 16:10 LCD, which has a 24 inch 4:3 image (probably rougly the same as CRT's were not always measured to true image size). I have a 27 inch 1920x1200 in my cab.
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The largest LCD 4:3 is 21.3 inch, but these are very expensive, but is has 55mm more vertical height than a 21.5 inch FullHD display!
The largest 4:3 image can be had with a 27 inch 16:10 LCD, which has a 24 inch 4:3 image (probably rougly the same as CRT's were not always measured to true image size). I have a 27 inch 1920x1200 in my cab.
What brand/model LCD 27 inch?
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now im more confused , how can a 4:3 be 16 :10 and a 27 inch be 24 inch
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A 27" 16:10 monitor works out to:
y = 14.31"
x = 22.896"
x (usable) = 19.08"
waste = 3.8"
A 24" 4:3 monitor works out to:
y = 14.4"
x = 19.2"
x (usable) = 19.2"
waste = N/A
So what he is saying is by using a 16:10 27" monitor, you achieve the same image you would get with a 4:3 24" monitor.
(Note, the 'waste' is just the part of the screen that is not being used when running a 4:3 window)
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A 27" 16:10 monitor works out to:
y = 14.31"
x = 22.896"
x (usable) = 19.08"
waste = 3.8"
A 24" 4:3 monitor works out to:
y = 14.4"
x = 19.2"
x (usable) = 19.2"
waste = N/A
So what he is saying is by using a 16:10 27" monitor, you achieve the same image you would get with a 4:3 24" monitor.
(Note, the 'waste' is just the part of the screen that is not being used when running a 4:3 window)
dont think a 27 inch monitor will fit
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Why is it referred to as 16:10 instead of 8:5?
For all the other aspect ratios they use the lowest numbers.
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To contrast it more clearly against a 16:9 as being slightly wider.
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To contrast it more clearly against a 16:9 as being slightly wider.
I see, they had to dumb down the aspect ratios so the ignorant masses could understand them.
I suppose 4x3 is more or less obsolete so we don't have to worry about them being renamed 16x12.
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I have a Nieman Display in my MAME:
http://niemandisplays.com/nieman_video_displays_007.htm (http://niemandisplays.com/nieman_video_displays_007.htm)
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think im getting this on it 20 inches across 15.7 high 5 wide and ways 10 lbs aspect 16:10 . what does everyone think ? looks like it will fit very nice
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Acer-V223WEJBD/14575828?findingMethod=rr#BVSecondaryCustomerRatings (http://www.walmart.com/ip/Acer-V223WEJBD/14575828?findingMethod=rr#BVSecondaryCustomerRatings)
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or would this be a better one
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Acer-V243HAJBD/14575833 (http://www.walmart.com/ip/Acer-V243HAJBD/14575833)
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To contrast it more clearly against a 16:9 as being slightly wider.
I see, they had to dumb down the aspect ratios so the ignorant masses could understand them.
I suppose 4x3 is more or less obsolete so we don't have to worry about them being renamed 16x12.
Well, every ratio should be referenced to 1 and then it would be easy to understand which is wider, i.e. 1.33:1 (4x3), 1.6:1 (16x10), 1.78:1 (16x9), etc.
B.
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for 3:4 monitors... it can be easier to find them on ebay then stores. Not to many being made now... but lots of old ones around. But it will be used and stuck pixel chances increase.
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The largest LCD 4:3 is 21.3 inch, but these are very expensive, but is has 55mm more vertical height than a 21.5 inch FullHD display!
The largest 4:3 image can be had with a 27 inch 16:10 LCD, which has a 24 inch 4:3 image (probably rougly the same as CRT's were not always measured to true image size). I have a 27 inch 1920x1200 in my cab.
There are 40 inch Pioneer plasma monitors out there, they are awesome for wall mounted cabinets.
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Honestly your best bet for a flat screen at this point is to get the LG 48" OLED and mount it vertically. It'll fit in some of the bigger 25" monitor cabinets.
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I mean you could get a 32"-40" LCD TV and mount it vertically in the cab?
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The LG OLED 48" is the best option. It's the only one in that size class that has variable refresh.
Getting a flat panel that doesn't have variable refresh is stupid in 2021.
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Putting a $1600 OLED TV that is too large in a cabinet is ridiculous advice.
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post a pic of your cab
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Go to Goodwill.
I picked up 2 20" 4:3 monitors (ViewSonic) for $5 each (senior discount). They work great. Heavy though and no stuck pixels.
You can get away with 17" too.
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Putting a $1600 OLED TV that is too large in a cabinet is ridiculous advice.
Nickel and diming something that's supposed to be an impressive amusement machine is ridiculous advice.
Arcade games SUCK without variable refresh on a flat panel. A real CRT or a variable refresh monitor are the only quality options.
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No silly.... his point is for $1600 you can just buy a fully restored cabinet with the monitor you want in most cases. Cost absolutely matters.
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It really doesn't. Two grand is chump change. If you can't afford that you've got bigger problems than buying an arcade cabinet.
Not everyone wants an original cabinet. Some people want to be able to run old games via emulation and new PC games as well.
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instead of 1600 dollars you can get the samsung q80t for around 900 at 50in its a qled with VRR. you could also get a monitor with freesync/gsync that has a range to support all the arcade games using at least double games original hrz.
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It really doesn't. Two grand is chump change. If you can't afford that you've got bigger problems than buying an arcade cabinet.
Not everyone wants an original cabinet. Some people want to be able to run old games via emulation and new PC games as well.
Unreal. You're abrasive enough to pull even me out of seclusion.
Your viewpoints are drawing rather negative attention. Just fair warning.
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Here's my warning to you: don't screw with me. You should be afraid of me--not the other way around.
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Ohhh, Internet tough guy. Watch out!
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Personally I feel arcade games should be played on CRT’s. But to each his own. But, spending 2k on a monitor for a mame machine is crazy.
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Here's my warning to you: don't screw with me. You should be afraid of me--not the other way around.
Well there's a genius. He threatens a global moderator, which can perma-ban him and then warns said moderator should be afraid when he can do exactly jack and squat to him. Go ahead and perma-ban this guy please, we don't need anymore paper tigers throwing out unwarranted hostility.
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Here's my warning to you: don't screw with me. You should be afraid of me--not the other way around.
Well there's a genius. He threatens a global moderator, which can perma-ban him and then warns said moderator should be afraid when he can do exactly jack and squat to him. Go ahead and perma-ban this guy please, we don't need anymore paper tigers throwing out unwarranted hostility.
Agreed.
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Sorted.
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Sorted.
That's how you end up wrecking a shoulder. Just sayin' :duckhunt
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Here's my warning to you: don't screw with me. You should be afraid of me--not the other way around.
Thanks for that. Funniest thing I've read this year.
With all the sh*t going on in the world I really needed a good laugh.
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It really doesn't. Two grand is chump change. If you can't afford that you've got bigger problems than buying an arcade cabinet.
I never realized I had problems until I balked at the idea of throwing $2000 at a wooden box that plays video games. :'( :'(
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Anyone else amused that a necrobump to a nine year old thread has caused issues? :dizzy:
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The largest LCD 4:3 is 21.3 inch, but these are very expensive, but is has 55mm more vertical height than a 21.5 inch FullHD display!
The largest 4:3 image can be had with a 27 inch 16:10 LCD, which has a 24 inch 4:3 image (probably rougly the same as CRT's were not always measured to true image size). I have a 27 inch 1920x1200 in my cab.
There are 40 inch Pioneer plasma monitors out there, they are awesome for wall mounted cabinets.
Anyone else amused that a necrobump to a nine year old thread has caused issues? :dizzy:
The funnier part is that the guy from Pink Floyd was the one unintentionally stirring the pot
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Ran across this post today while trying to find a monitor to fit an arcade cabinet with 21" wide X 16" opening. Is 24" the largest 4:3 monitor? I called Dell and they don't even make 4:3 anymore. Thanks for any help!
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Ran across this post today while trying to find a monitor to fit an arcade cabinet with 21" wide X 16" opening. Is 24" the largest 4:3 monitor? I called Dell and they don't even make 4:3 anymore. Thanks for any help!
25" crt TV has a screen size of roughly 20" inches by 15".
a 27" CRT TV screen is roughly 21.5" x 16".
I say roughly because i have multiple 20" CRT's and there are slight size differences between models and that's with the case still on.
some crt's I can tell there is more screen just waiting behind the bezel.
a 43" LCD TV flipped vertically will have a width of 21".
but you gotta do something with the other 22" of screen you don't need.
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My favorite setup is a large screen rotated 90. If your lucky the top can display a marquee.
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My dream setup would be a showcase with a large, low-latency OLED at 4k (or higher) and a CPU with the grunt to use shaders to take full advantage of the resolution for good CRT pixel emulation.
Maybe by time I retire, it'll be in a price range where I would actually consider doing it :laugh: Till then, a crappy XP computer, a real 27" RGB CRT and a cheap AMD card running CRT-EmuDriver seems to do the job.
Anyone else amused that a necrobump to a nine year old thread has caused issues? :dizzy:
Makes perfect sense. Everything in that time period seemed to have caused some kind of issue with somebody. >:D
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My dream setup would be a showcase with a large, low-latency OLED at 4k (or higher) and a CPU with the grunt to use shaders to take full advantage of the resolution for good CRT pixel emulation.
I think we'll see the 48" OLEDs for $900 this fall when all the sales happen. We're probably two years away from those being $500 on sale. And the inexpensive AMD APUs coming out now can run just about any shader you'd want at 4k.
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I think we'll see the 48" OLEDs for $900 this fall when all the sales happen. We're probably two years away from those being $500 on sale. And the inexpensive AMD APUs coming out now can run just about any shader you'd want at 4k.
Still too high. There's something a bit perverse about spending thousands on electronics to get closer to the old stuff that costs less in total than the cost of just the new display. I think we are still a good 5-6 years away from a decent "retro parity" system where the display and cost is concerned. To be honest, it's probably farther away than that when considering display latency. The really fast ones will always cost more, at least if current trends are to be used as a basis.