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Post by: ChanceKJ on November 23, 2015, 01:55:28 am
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Post by: ChanceKJ on November 23, 2015, 03:34:05 am
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Post by: jeremymtc on November 23, 2015, 03:50:44 am
Nice score!

What is the purpose of the yellow button above the coin door, and the other circular hole just below it? Credit button (?), and...?
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Post by: ChanceKJ on November 23, 2015, 03:56:25 am
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Post by: CheffoJeffo on November 23, 2015, 07:26:04 am
 :applaud: :applaud: :applaud:

/me waits for the inevitable resurrection of the Joust cocktail plans thread with folks hounding Chance for "one more measurement"
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Post by: wp34 on November 23, 2015, 07:30:51 am
Awesome pickup. That's one of the best cocktail designs.
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Post by: johnrt on November 23, 2015, 08:02:42 am
:applaud: :applaud: :applaud:

/me waits for the inevitable resurrection of the Joust cocktail plans thread with folks hounding Chance for "one more measurement"
johnrt wonders if CheffoJeffo and jennifer has something going on.
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Post by: CheffoJeffo on November 23, 2015, 08:07:18 am
:applaud: :applaud: :applaud:

/me waits for the inevitable resurrection of the Joust cocktail plans thread with folks hounding Chance for "one more measurement"
johnrt wonders if CheffoJeffo and jennifer has something going on.

Nah, otherwise I'd have shown her how to use the 'me' tag for properly neurotic 3rd person self-referencing.
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Post by: johnrt on November 23, 2015, 09:13:26 am
Can you show the coin mech on this one? Just curious.
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Post by: harveybirdman on November 23, 2015, 09:28:04 am
Wow Cheffo was just talking about this and then bam you get one....

Nice score Chance!
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Post by: ChanceKJ on November 23, 2015, 09:44:32 am
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Post by: CheffoJeffo on November 23, 2015, 10:00:35 am
OH! 50pts if anyone can find me the vector file for the control panel art. I found the coin door and instruction card .ai files, but i can't seem to find the CP ones anyplace :(

I don't recall seeing vectors out in the wild (or I would have grabbed them), although I believe they were done and repro'd ... can't remember who did them and I think they were already sold out by the time I went looking.

One thing to remember is that the CPs (well, the Joust logo portion of the CPs) were backlit.

(http://i542.photobucket.com/albums/gg406/ktketter/Joust%20Cocktail/DSC03782.jpg)
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Post by: ChanceKJ on November 23, 2015, 10:03:52 am
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Post by: CheffoJeffo on November 23, 2015, 10:21:30 am
Pulled out my notes out of my cab and it looks like Phoenix Arcade was the one who repro'd it, but (not surprisingly) on their site anymore. You might try dropping Jeff Rothe a line -- I have it in my head that he may have been involved and I don't know if he would have any objections to releasing the artwork if it isn't currently being repro'd.

Sorry can't be more help.  :-\
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Post by: ChanceKJ on November 23, 2015, 10:43:51 am
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Post by: big10p on November 23, 2015, 10:53:35 am
I'm not much of a fan of cocktails but I love the Williams ones. Pity that Bubble Bobble was a boot.
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Post by: ChanceKJ on November 23, 2015, 11:11:21 am
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Post by: JimmyU on November 23, 2015, 11:13:03 am
That's a pretty cool looking cocktail. Pretty spacious for two players.
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Post by: CheffoJeffo on November 23, 2015, 11:15:32 am
Anyone wanna nail me to the cross for suggesting i make this a Multi-Williams?  >:D

Yes, although trying to play Robotron or Defender on it might be punishment enough.

Since there don't seem to be any CP repros out there, I imagine that original sticks are still impossible to find?
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Post by: johnrt on November 23, 2015, 11:20:20 am
Are you gonna run a restore thread here at BYOAC?
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Post by: Token on November 23, 2015, 11:22:01 am
Anyone wanna nail me to the cross for suggesting i make this a Multi-Williams?  >:D

Somewhere in Alberta...

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8286/7711619804_1e6585b473_b.jpg)

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Post by: ChanceKJ on November 23, 2015, 11:50:00 am
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Post by: tomstewdevine on November 23, 2015, 12:02:31 pm
Yeah right?!  It would have been money if it was a taito original.  I did find some documentation on the PCB in the floor of the cab. pin out, DIP's, etc.

Cody84's taking the board off my hands to put in another cab we picked up a few months ago for him. So i want to build him a JAMMA adaptor for it.

Anyone wanna nail me to the cross for suggesting i make this a Multi-Williams?  >:D

Robotron would be quite the reach if your using one joystick from each player.
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Post by: CheffoJeffo on November 23, 2015, 12:04:48 pm
For now, i might prep it for the JROK, but thats it. Maybe just let parts come in as i make orders for other cabs.

Is jrok still selling boards? You'll want another for when you find that perfect Robotron cabinet and a pair of 4" Wicos.  :cheers:
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Post by: markc74 on November 23, 2015, 01:05:39 pm
My favourite cocktail ever. Awesome game too so great pickup. I've never seen one in the uk or i would have snapped it up.

Joymonkey has loads of joust artwork but doesn't seem like it has the cocktail art  :-[

http://www.coinopart.com/index.php?s=Joust (http://www.coinopart.com/index.php?s=Joust)
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Post by: ChanceKJ on November 23, 2015, 01:28:00 pm
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Post by: yamatetsu on November 23, 2015, 02:06:19 pm
No idea if that's what you are looking for. Hope it is.

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=136713.0;attach=339890)


http://www.arcadeoverlays.com/joust-cocktail-control-panel-overlay/ (http://www.arcadeoverlays.com/joust-cocktail-control-panel-overlay/)
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Post by: ChanceKJ on November 23, 2015, 03:35:37 pm
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Post by: vwalbridge on November 23, 2015, 03:42:27 pm
Here you go:

Joust Coin Door Art (http://coinopart.com/index.php?d=1079)

However, you have to sign up and donate $10 USD (about $87.52 CDN)

EDIT: Looks like the above site only has the cocktail coin door art.
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Post by: PL1 on November 23, 2015, 03:58:04 pm
Looks like ArcadeArtwork has a lot of the same files (and several more) on their Google Drive "J" files folder here (https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B69DctF0Bt9BeWx3eWZjVURkTW8&usp=sharing) without the signup fee.   ;D


Scott
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Post by: winnydapoo on November 23, 2015, 07:07:16 pm
Epic cocktail cab, great find!  :cheers:
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Post by: yotsuya on November 23, 2015, 07:39:41 pm
Are you gonna run a restore thread here at BYOAC?
Are you hinting that i should have run my Mario Bros one here instead of KLOV?

Thought had crossed my mind. but i have a Red Tent, and a the Mario Bros in the pipe first before i can realistically tackle this. For now, i might prep it for the JROK, but thats it. Maybe just let parts come in as i make orders for other cabs.

Yes, this place needs more pure restorations.
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Post by: ChanceKJ on November 24, 2015, 02:43:52 am
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Post by: RTyper56 on November 24, 2015, 02:31:31 pm
My favourite cocktail ever. Awesome game too so great pickup. I've never seen one in the uk or i would have snapped it up.

Joymonkey has loads of joust artwork but doesn't seem like it has the cocktail art  :-[

http://www.coinopart.com/index.php?s=Joust (http://www.coinopart.com/index.php?s=Joust)

Yeah, that was one of my first stops today.  :(  I did manage to find low res versions of the cocktail CPO's, but they're bmp files and not at all quality to trace over in illustrator.  I can't even attach them to this thread.

what quality/resolution do you need in illustrator.
I been digging around google and many other sites, and all I found was this 504x483 jpg (http://cdn3.bigcommerce.com/s-60z4za/products/194/images/378/joustctcpo1__56221.1432740332.1280.1280.jpg?c=2) that has both CPOs.
Looking at it closely, however, I don't think this would be good enough since the graphics around where the joysticks would be is a little fuzzy.
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Post by: vwalbridge on November 24, 2015, 02:34:02 pm
My favourite cocktail ever. Awesome game too so great pickup. I've never seen one in the uk or i would have snapped it up.

Joymonkey has loads of joust artwork but doesn't seem like it has the cocktail art  :-[

http://www.coinopart.com/index.php?s=Joust (http://www.coinopart.com/index.php?s=Joust)

Yeah, that was one of my first stops today.  :(  I did manage to find low res versions of the cocktail CPO's, but they're bmp files and not at all quality to trace over in illustrator.  I can't even attach them to this thread.

what quality/resolution do you need in illustrator.
I been digging around google and many other sites, and all I found was this 504x483 jpg (http://cdn3.bigcommerce.com/s-60z4za/products/194/images/378/joustctcpo1__56221.1432740332.1280.1280.jpg?c=2) that has both CPOs.
Looking at it closely, however, I don't think this would be good enough since the graphics around where the joysticks would be is a little fuzzy.

That resolution is WAY too low. Chance is going to need 300dpi or better yet... an original .ai file.
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Post by: RTyper56 on November 24, 2015, 03:12:43 pm
ok.
I was just checking.
I was able to find AIs of other graphics, but nothing for the cocktail CPO.
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Post by: ChanceKJ on November 24, 2015, 03:22:29 pm
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Post by: yotsuya on November 24, 2015, 04:00:04 pm
Yeah,

Nice find tho. I'm contemplating going the "Multi-Williams" rout with this. And if I do I'll make my own custom CPO.

...however! Recent developments today have given me a possible like on an actual Joust board set. :D sooo... Yeah :)

We'll see.  But you know I guess I'm still on the hunt for the ai files either way
You multi-anything that and they'll gut you on KLOV. Rightfully so.
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Post by: CheffoJeffo on November 24, 2015, 04:07:32 pm
While I hate the idea of disfiguring a Joust cocktail, it's not like you would be making it worse going MW.  ::)

There was a time when I liked (probably too strong a word) working with Williams board sets and there is plenty of good documentation out there, but wiring them from scratch will be a complete ---smurfing--- pain wonderful exercise in restoration (does dokert over on KLOV still make Williams harnesses?).

Depending on which way you go, if you can't find files, let me know and I'll drop my CPs onto the scanner and you can vector away.
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Post by: yotsuya on November 24, 2015, 04:29:54 pm
I dunno, it's such a unique machine, designed specifically for TWO player Joust... none of the other MW games take  advantage of two player games/controls.

$0.03. Do what you want. Reach across the front and play Robotron with the two separate joysticks. Smoke a bowl, put in an LCD. Make yourself happy.
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Post by: vwalbridge on November 24, 2015, 04:34:15 pm
I dunno, it's such a unique machine, designed specifically for TWO player Joust... none of the other MW games take  advantage of two player games/controls.

$0.03. Do what you want. Reach across the front and play Robotron with the two separate joysticks. Smoke a bowl, put in an LCD. Make yourself happy.

Don't listen to Yots Chance. Joust was a crappy game and the cocktail version was even worse. All around ugly machine that you don't need.

Tell you what, I'll do you a huge favor and take it off your hands. :)
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Post by: yotsuya on November 24, 2015, 04:40:40 pm
Yeah, I don't want to be THAT GUY, especially around here anymore, but unless you're just using the MW to run just Joust, I don't see the point in MWing that unique cab.

So it warms my heart to hear you found a Joust boardset. There's nothing wrong with a cab that just plays 1 game, especially when you already have a MAME cab that can play almost anything.
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Post by: ChanceKJ on November 24, 2015, 04:48:28 pm
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Post by: harveybirdman on November 24, 2015, 04:52:57 pm
Yo dog, I put a multi in your multi's multi.....
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Post by: Token on November 24, 2015, 04:54:11 pm
U haz MAME 4-playz cab plerz erry gum! U no need multi-wimmz!  :hissy:


There's nothing wrong with a cab that just plays 1 game, especially when you already have a MAME cab that can play almost anything.

Yeah, yots put it better.
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Post by: CheffoJeffo on November 24, 2015, 05:03:00 pm
This however means i'll need to find new sticks and order new buttons. Did these cocktails have their own version of the 2-way Joust joysticks? or are we quite sure they used the same as the uprights? :)

They were unique to the Joust cocktail. I have heard of people using cocktail Defender sticks (replacing the shafts).
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Post by: yotsuya on November 24, 2015, 05:15:17 pm
See thats just part of it, nobody's done a MW with a Joust cocktail that i can find.

There's a reason for that. Look at the game list:

Defender - Up and down 2-way joystick, 5 buttons needed
Stargate - Up and down 2-way joystick, 6 buttons needed
Joust - Up and down 2-way joystick, 1 button needed
Robotron - Dual Joysticks
Bubbles - 8 Way Joystick
Splat - Dual Joysticks
Sinistar - 49 way joystick, 1 button needed
Blaster - 49 way joystick, 2 buttons needed

Of those games, only Joust is simultaneous 2 player.

Again, do what you want, but I'm glad you're planning on an original boardset.

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Post by: Aceldamor on November 24, 2015, 05:23:22 pm
FWIW - which isn't much coming from me, I'd have to agree with the rest of the peeps here and make it as close to the original as possible. save the MW for a repro cab a la your Nintendo cab mate.

Joust is one of the classics that can stand on it's own any day. Add one of the more rare versions of the cab to the equation and it would almost assuredly be one of the most sought after cabs round these parts.

IMHO a MW board would "cheapen" it.
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Post by: ChanceKJ on November 24, 2015, 05:33:24 pm
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Post by: PL1 on November 24, 2015, 06:15:01 pm
Look into this (http://www.arcadeadventures.com/williams-cocktail-joystick-base-kit-for-both-joysticks/) joystick base kit at your own risk.   :scared
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Price:  Email: arcade@arcadeadventures.com

More info about the Joust cocktail sticks here (http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=139618) on KLOV.

Reply #7 mentions that Arcadeshop used to carry repros.

Reply #9 mentions machining down upright sticks.

Kjoel had a few posts on KLOV 6 years ago gauging interest in repros/rebuilds here (http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=94486) and here (http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=96182).


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Post by: ChanceKJ on November 24, 2015, 06:23:44 pm
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Post by: PL1 on November 24, 2015, 06:36:15 pm
Why "at my own risk"?
E-mail for price usually means that the parts are going to cost an arm, a leg, and a third appendage to be named later.

I've never dealt with this vendor or this product.    :dunno

I didn't want to appear to endorse an unknown.  Caveat Emptor.


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Edit: Looks like they've been around for a while.
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Post by: ChanceKJ on November 25, 2015, 12:27:22 am
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Post by: ChanceKJ on November 25, 2015, 11:33:00 pm
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Post by: wp34 on November 25, 2015, 11:37:46 pm
Nice. What's the story behind that lucky grab?
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Post by: ChanceKJ on November 25, 2015, 11:55:41 pm
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Post by: PL1 on November 26, 2015, 12:04:54 am
Looks like you have some documentation that isn't on the KLOV Joust (http://www.arcade-museum.com/game_detail.php?game_id=8243) manual listing.

Would you mind cross-checking for missing pages/poor image quality and scanning any new docs to share with the various manual sites?   ;D

Thanks for your consideration.


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Post by: CheffoJeffo on November 27, 2015, 11:54:20 am
I had never heard of these guys before, but these may be of interest if you can't find original sticks:

http://www.arcadeadventures.com/williams-cocktail-joystick-base-kit-for-both-joysticks/ (http://www.arcadeadventures.com/williams-cocktail-joystick-base-kit-for-both-joysticks/)
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Post by: ChanceKJ on November 27, 2015, 01:21:16 pm
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Post by: PL1 on November 28, 2015, 09:05:05 pm
Reply #9 in the KLOV thread here (http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=139618) implies that the difference is shaft diameter, not length.

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Or you can make your own like I had to do. I took upright sticks and machined them down to the size of the cocktails. The picture below shows the original and the machined down "repros" I made.

(http://i542.photobucket.com/albums/gg406/ktketter/Joust%20Cocktail/DSC03768.jpg~original)


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Post by: ChanceKJ on January 14, 2016, 01:08:52 pm
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Post by: yotsuya on January 14, 2016, 01:15:13 pm
Summary, please. I'm not watching that.
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Post by: vwalbridge on January 14, 2016, 01:22:12 pm
Summary, please. I'm not watching that.

I personally like the videos.  I've watched most of Chance's and John's.

Tip:

Watch long videos in YouTube on 2x speed. It was life-changing when I realized Chrome had this feature. I can pound out a 1hr arcade video in 30mins. I think Chrome is the only browser with this feature.

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=136713.0;attach=342445;image)
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Post by: yotsuya on January 14, 2016, 01:33:32 pm
Summary, please. I'm not watching that.

I personally like the videos.  I've watched most of Chance's and John's.

Tip:

Watch long videos in YouTube on 2x speed. It was life-changing when I realized Chrome had this feature. I can pound out a 1hr arcade video in 30mins. I think Chrome is the only browser with this feature.

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=136713.0;attach=342445;image)
I'm glad you like the videos,  I'm still not watching it. Summary please.
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Post by: CheffoJeffo on January 14, 2016, 01:40:59 pm
Summary, please. I'm not watching that.

He's turning it into a Mario Bros.
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Post by: ChanceKJ on January 14, 2016, 01:51:54 pm
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Post by: yotsuya on January 14, 2016, 01:52:48 pm
Good to know, thanks.
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Post by: rackoon on January 16, 2016, 07:52:05 pm
I enjoyed your video.  Cant wait to see the finished product.

That's got my vote for the coolest cocktail I have seen. The design is a work of art. :notworthy:
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Post by: johnrt on January 16, 2016, 07:57:28 pm
You have too long intro in your videos, Chance! Otherwise it's good!
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Post by: ChanceKJ on January 17, 2016, 06:36:55 pm
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Post by: DeLuSioNal29 on January 17, 2016, 07:02:41 pm
Summary, please. I'm not watching that.
You're one of those kids who actually read reading assignments in textbooks weren't you?  Most kids would love to watch a movie about a book instead actually reading it.  LOL.

Or did you read the cliff notes instead.   >:D

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Post by: yotsuya on January 17, 2016, 07:05:16 pm
Summary, please. I'm not watching that.
You're one of those kids who actually read reading assignments in textbooks weren't you?  Most kids would love to watch a movie about a book instead actually reading it.  LOL.

Or did you read the cliff notes instead.   >:D
I've been an educator for 20 years, so you figure it out. ;-)
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Post by: DeLuSioNal29 on January 17, 2016, 08:37:04 pm
I guess that's why I work for the History channel for 20 as well. Lol!