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Arcade Collecting => Restorations & repair => Topic started by: Ian on July 29, 2017, 01:59:36 am

Title: Why race when we can OUTRUN!
Post by: Ian on July 29, 2017, 01:59:36 am
Well I drove the 8 hour drive (according to my GPS), but it was more like 10.  :badmood: I visited the Illinois legend Troy Smith... Picked up 2 Outruns. (one for parts). One is fully working but it's a ---smurfette--- of a cosmetic restore... Looking forward getting my hands on these.

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Title: Re: Why race when we can OUTRUN!
Post by: Ian on July 29, 2017, 09:44:11 am
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Title: Re: Why race when we can OUTRUN!
Post by: Ian on July 29, 2017, 09:46:59 am
The goal here is to fully restore one cab and the other (100% dependent on if the board is working and if I can get a good monitor) will be a restore as well. If not I will part it out to other outrun restorers since these cabs have a lot of parts that are not replicated right now.
Title: Re: Why race when we can OUTRUN!
Post by: Ian on August 01, 2017, 10:21:49 pm
I have to lighten this beast before going into my dungeon. So off goes the steering wheel! Looks like I have quite a bit of cleaning to do. These things are gross. Cab 1 is greasy everywhere... cab 2 is pretty clean.

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=149895.0;attach=360855;image)

Cab 1 Grease cab!
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Cab 2 Not so bad... lol

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=149895.0;attach=360861;image)
Title: Re: Why race when we can OUTRUN!
Post by: Ian on August 01, 2017, 10:24:03 pm
On a side note... I panicked last night and sent Delusional a PM regarding my complete confusion over converting a Turbo Outrun to a regular Outrun (He has done this before I think). Anyway I think I scared him.... my bad Del!

Anyone want to take a stab at converting my board back to an Original Outrun? Just throwing it out there! lol

Title: Re: Why race when we can OUTRUN!
Post by: Ian on August 01, 2017, 10:51:00 pm
It looks like the Turbo to Original outrun is crazy.... thanks for clearing that up Del.  :dizzy:
Title: Re: Why race when we can OUTRUN!
Post by: DeLuSioNal29 on August 01, 2017, 11:17:19 pm
It looks like the Turbo to Original outrun is crazy.... thanks for clearing that up Del.  :dizzy:
Maybe not crazy, but a little more work than everyone says.  It's not just a simple burn and swap since there are no 1mb 28 pin EPROM chips out there.

I wrote up a topic here on KLOV (still a WIP):
https://forums.arcade-museum.com/showpost.php?p=3546664&postcount=5

Here's why the simple swap of EPROMS will not work: 
https://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=399521

Good luck and let me know if you have any questions.  I posted an Outrun pickup video recently and I can always add a follow up if needed.

DeL
Title: Re: Why race when we can OUTRUN!
Post by: Ian on August 01, 2017, 11:32:54 pm
Love the video.... I feel like this past year we have been on the same Arcade journey... first Galaxian now two Outruns! Pretty cool. Any and all videos regarding Outrun I will watch!
Title: Re: Why race when we can OUTRUN!
Post by: Ian on August 11, 2017, 09:21:04 pm
Not a terribly exciting clean up... but it is done. I just scrubbed, wire brushed, rewired a marquee light, scrubbed, and scrubbed. Here are some after pictures... Just need to find an original Outrun Board. Turbo Outrun kind of sucks.

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=149895.0;attach=361260;image)
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Title: Re: Why race when we can OUTRUN!
Post by: DeLuSioNal29 on August 15, 2017, 04:27:20 pm
Looks nice. It's in better shape than mine.
Title: Re: Why race when we can OUTRUN!
Post by: Ian on August 15, 2017, 04:52:24 pm
I still need to desuicide the board... and get myself an original Outrun... but it came together great. Replaced the springs and wire brushed the pedals... it was a piece of cake.
Title: Re: Why race when we can OUTRUN!
Post by: Ian on August 15, 2017, 04:52:52 pm
but thank you... you seem to be the only one interested... lol

 :D
Title: Re: Why race when we can OUTRUN!
Post by: Mike A on August 16, 2017, 11:06:50 am
Looks good in the lineup. I was on vacation and I missed this thread.
Title: Re: Why race when we can OUTRUN!
Post by: DeLuSioNal29 on August 17, 2017, 11:17:49 am
Let me know what you find out about removing that 1094 battery CPU from the Turbo Outrun.  I've resurrected my Sega Thunder Blade which has the same CPU.  I'm curious to see what needs to be done for the Turbo Outrun.  (Please don't post links to roms though).

DeL
Title: Re: Why race when we can OUTRUN!
Post by: Ian on August 17, 2017, 06:57:14 pm
Let me know what you find out about removing that 1094 battery CPU from the Turbo Outrun.  I've resurrected my Sega Thunder Blade which has the same CPU.  I'm curious to see what needs to be done for the Turbo Outrun.  (Please don't post links to roms though).

DeL

Yeah I went through http://www.segaresurrection.com/... (http://www.segaresurrection.com/...) the guy there was super helpful and got all the parts for me and I will let you know how it goes!
Title: Re: Why race when we can OUTRUN!
Post by: Ian on August 17, 2017, 06:58:12 pm
Looks good in the lineup. I was on vacation and I missed this thread.

Ha ha ha ha... I couldn't eat for 3 days because I was so upset you didn't comment.... :) jk.

Hope you had a great vacation man!  :cheers:
Title: Re: Why race when we can OUTRUN!
Post by: Mike A on August 17, 2017, 08:39:30 pm
Quote
but thank you... you seem to be the only one interested... lol

I didn't want you to think nobody cared. ;)
Title: Re: Why race when we can OUTRUN!
Post by: mourix on August 19, 2017, 04:04:44 pm
Holidays keep us busy, but your cab came out well. Digging the room too :cheers:
Title: Re: Why race when we can OUTRUN!
Post by: Drnick on September 08, 2017, 03:35:06 am
Thanks for bringing back memories of a much younger me.  My first job after leaving school was working for an  arcade machine supplier of the time (1989-91) and my first job was installing Turbo outrun control panels and all the stickers :)  But yeah Turbo outrun Sucks :)
Title: Re: Why race when we can OUTRUN!
Post by: Ian on September 08, 2017, 01:26:51 pm
Thanks for bringing back memories of a much younger me.  My first job after leaving school was working for an  arcade machine supplier of the time (1989-91) and my first job was installing Turbo outrun control panels and all the stickers :)  But yeah Turbo outrun Sucks :)

It does suck! I really don't have fun playing it at all.... Next Thursday I am supposedly picking up a working Outrun Board. This guy has been pretty flaky... so fingers crossed!
Title: Re: Why race when we can OUTRUN!
Post by: Ian on September 16, 2017, 03:35:44 pm
Well... Last Thursday was an important night for my Outrun Project. I posted a WTB over at Klov for a working Outrun board and after a few weeks I nearly lost hope. Then bam! A guy had a working board he was willing to sell. And as luck would have it, he lived less than 30 minutes from my house! Went over there checked out his collection (He had a SpyHunter, Star Wars upright, Cabaret Centipede and Outrun, 4 of the shorter pinball machines that Williams put out, Pole Position cockpit, and a (I believe) a Sea Rider with the Periscope! Very cool. He also had a few projects but overall I was impressed!

Anyway put the final touches on the Outrun. Ripped off the Turbo sticker on the side art that covered the Sega Logo, Replaced the Map artwork on the dashboard, shined up the Steering Wheel and Stick shift knob. Put in the textured black t-molding, and of course put in the Outrun PCB.

Oh, and the PCB had an added bonus. It had the highscore save kit, MPH, Attract mode, song select (with the music), and freeplay upgrade! Not bad!


Ian

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I did buy an Outrun marquee off of Ebay. But once it was back lit, it was completely washed out! Total bummer.
Title: Re: Why race when we can OUTRUN!
Post by: paigeoliver on September 17, 2017, 12:52:13 am
Do you perhaps have any control panel bolts left over from the parts machine? Mine doesn't have them all.
Title: Re: Why race when we can OUTRUN!
Post by: Ian on September 17, 2017, 02:35:01 am
Do you perhaps have any control panel bolts left over from the parts machine? Mine doesn't have them all.

Sorry Paige, sold the parts machine... however they too were missing the bolts. Had to match them up at the local hardware store.
Title: Re: Why race when we can OUTRUN!
Post by: matsadona on September 18, 2017, 03:29:55 am
Hm... putting Turbo Outrun in an original Outrun cabinet without the boost/turbo button. Doesn't that limit the game play quite a lot?  ::)
Title: Re: Why race when we can OUTRUN!
Post by: Ian on September 18, 2017, 10:02:19 am
Hm... putting Turbo Outrun in an original Outrun cabinet without the boost/turbo button. Doesn't that limit the game play quite a lot?  ::)

Arcade operators where given two options for the turbo button. They shipped a different shifter that came equipped with a button. Like this one...

(https://na.suzohapp.com/images/50/50801700.jpg)

But lots of Arcades for whatever reason decided that just wiring the Start Button to be the Turbo would be easier. My Turbo button was the start button. Sega came out with stickers to show players this...

(http://www.dragonslairfans.com/forforum/giddy/next/DSCF3965.jpg)
Title: Re: Why race when we can OUTRUN! ***New Issue Need Help****
Post by: Ian on October 05, 2017, 04:41:57 pm
I get a nice refurbed monitor (the old one had terrible terrible screen burn) a Wells Gardener 7200 and plugged her in. And she is beautiful! I play it for 4-5 days and am loving it. Well I had company and left the machine on for like 6 hours and when I came back I found that the picture was a bit glitchy. The blue sky was gray and the water was gray. So I unplug everything check my voltages and found that my power supply  5 volt is giving off like 5-6 volts and the adjustment knob is doing nothing. So I have replaced the powersupply voltages are now a solid 5v. I also noticed that the second fuse down was blown. So I replaced the fuse and powered the game on again and the sky is nice and blue but the road is half brownish gray and the other half is blended into the background.

http://youtu.be/-Rwr5kSkyRE (http://youtu.be/-Rwr5kSkyRE)


Game plays fine.. but the road is really bothering me. Also I would like to point out that the boards have been reseated together (A and B boards), and the chips themselves have not been touched since they are newer chips (the board was fresh off of a repair).

I am lost.
Title: Re: Why race when we can OUTRUN! ***New Issue Need Help****
Post by: Mike A on October 05, 2017, 04:48:59 pm
Attack the symptoms. Why did the fuse blow? That would be my first question. I can't view the video until I go home, so if that is already answered in the video you can disregard that advice.
Title: Re: Why race when we can OUTRUN! ***New Issue Need Help****
Post by: Ian on October 05, 2017, 04:54:37 pm
Attack the symptoms. Why did the fuse blow? That would be my first question. I can't view the video until I go home, so if that is already answered in the video you can disregard that advice.

wrong fuse... it was a quick burn fuse. This fuse is for the fan motor, the florescent light and the monitor power. I assume the monitor spiked when booted up which caused the quick burn to pop. I put in the correct fuse and it seems to be running fine.
Title: Re: Why race when we can OUTRUN! ***New Issue Need Help****
Post by: Ian on October 05, 2017, 05:05:20 pm
https://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=151041.0

I found this topic... I had the same wrong fuse in mine in the same damn spot. Interesting. I did replace it with the one PL1 suggested.
Title: Re: Why race when we can OUTRUN! ***New Issue Need Help****
Post by: Mike A on October 05, 2017, 05:09:34 pm
Did you try waving a Pi in front of the monitor in a counter clockwise direction? There is an incantation that goes with that, but I can't remember it. I will consult my copy of the Necronomicon when I get home. klaatu something something. That fixes most problems.
Title: Re: Why race when we can OUTRUN! ***New Issue Need Help****
Post by: Ian on October 05, 2017, 05:20:36 pm
Did you try waving a Pi in front of the monitor in a counter clockwise direction? There is an incantation that goes with that, but I can't remember it. I will consult my copy of the Necronomicon when I get home. klaatu something something. That fixes most problems.

I jammed 3 Pi's in this thing... One in the coin slot... one into the iso transformer and one in the florescent light fixture. So far the game boots up, and tells me how great rasberry pi's are and how they can do everything, and then it just starts to smoke and smell bad. I don't get it.
Title: Re: Why race when we can OUTRUN! ***New Issue Need Help****
Post by: Mike A on October 05, 2017, 05:21:57 pm
It sounds like you are doing everything right. :dunno
Title: Re: Why race when we can OUTRUN! ***New Issue Need Help****
Post by: 05SRT4 on October 06, 2017, 06:53:45 am
Man these Pi Jokes  :laugh2: