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Arcade Collecting => Merit/JVL Touchscreen => Topic started by: Megatouchmike on April 18, 2022, 02:20:33 pm

Title: Megatouch security key saver for all Maxx, Force, Ion - looking for beta testers
Post by: Megatouchmike on April 18, 2022, 02:20:33 pm
Hey all,

Working on a new project, a linux shared library that will automatically dump your security key and load it from disk on subsequent boots.  Basically, what this will do is protect your machine in the event that the battery in your security key dies.  We all know keys dying today are rare, and even though my original Maxx key from 1999 is still working, time is ticking...

This will *not* make your machine keyless but instead check to see if the same key is still inserted (the serial can be read even after the key dies), and if so, return the original key data to the game so that it boots.  The best part about this library is that it's one file that will run on all Linux-based platforms (Maxx, Force, Ion).  For Force and Ion, it can be permanently loaded onto your machine simply by putting a USB stick in it when booting.  Maxx will require some extra work due to lack of USB support.

Advantages
- Works with your existing hard drive (no hard drive swapping needed)
- Completely free of any binary hacking
- Completely free of side effects from buggy keyless hacks (like volume control not working, tri-towers crashing)
- Will 100% pass all in-game checksums for that original megatouch feel  :lol
- No entering commands into the linux shell
- Will survive factory resets
- Drive can be easily cloned and still boot as long as you have your original security key (regardless if dead or not)
- Save your security key forever, eventually will incorporate a feature where it will save the key back to the USB stick in case a new hard drive/reinstall is necessary

Disadvantages
- It's an alpha/beta version so there might be some issues but it can't (at least in theory?) completely kill your machine, so I recommend backing up your hard drive before using

Looking for anyone who might be willing to test.  I am designing this for people who have never worked on megatouches/arcades before to make it as easy as possible, so you are welcome to test if you know how to plug in a USB drive to your megatouch and turn it on  :P
Title: Re: Megatouch security key saver for all Maxx, Force, Ion - looking for beta testers
Post by: Dazzzzz on May 03, 2022, 02:40:51 am
Interesting stuff, i would be very happy to take a look.
Feel free to DM me if you would like me to test anything for you.
I have some experience with the Megatouch code so would be good to see how this is done
Title: Re: Megatouch security key saver for all Maxx, Force, Ion - looking for beta testers
Post by: DrAlves on May 10, 2022, 07:48:51 am
Very Nice!!
I'm in! :)
Title: Re: Megatouch security key saver for all Maxx, Force, Ion - looking for beta testers
Post by: lilshawn on May 17, 2022, 04:25:29 pm
hi Mike, sent you a PM about a week ago and haven't heard back. Could I get you to have a look at it and get back to me? Thanks!
Title: Re: Megatouch security key saver for all Maxx, Force, Ion - looking for beta testers
Post by: mahkeymike on May 18, 2022, 06:53:37 am
maybe his inbox is full
Title: Re: Megatouch security key saver for all Maxx, Force, Ion - looking for beta testers
Post by: Megatouchmike on May 18, 2022, 07:12:37 am
hi Mike, sent you a PM about a week ago and haven't heard back. Could I get you to have a look at it and get back to me? Thanks!

Sorry didn't see it. I emailed you
Title: Re: Megatouch security key saver for all Maxx, Force, Ion - looking for beta testers
Post by: tlandrews on May 25, 2022, 11:23:40 pm
I bought a keyless 2014 off eBay and I get errors in some games would this fix my problem
Title: Re: Megatouch security key saver for all Maxx, Force, Ion - looking for beta testers
Post by: lilshawn on May 26, 2022, 01:42:00 am
no.

from what i understand is the system key has 2 things... a serial number (permanent and unique to each key) and volatile key data (backed up by a battery and unique to the system version year (ion 2014 or whatever))

the megatouch asks the key for data, and the key spits out its serial number and the volatile key data contained in the memory pages to the system... problem is, the batteries inside these will eventually run out and the data will disappear. when it asks for the key data it will spit out the serial number... and a bunch of empty key page data.

what this would do is copy the keydata onto the system to back it up so that when/if the battery inside the key fails, when it asks for the key data it will spit out the serial number... and a bunch of empty key page data... the system will read the backup file and continue to operate.

TL;DR - you have to have an already working key for this to work.


also, megatouch software requites a security key to operate. if you bought a "no key" version on ebay you bought a hacked/stolen software.

i'm all for hacking your own software and you take your own chances, but profiting off it by selling them is wrong.
Title: Re: Megatouch security key saver for all Maxx, Force, Ion - looking for beta testers
Post by: tlandrews on May 26, 2022, 06:22:54 am
Thanks, the listing said it was tested and working but maybe they didn't try all the games
Title: Re: Megatouch security key saver for all Maxx, Force, Ion - looking for beta testers
Post by: lilshawn on May 26, 2022, 10:35:07 am
well yeah...it "works"...


works about as good as buying a burned CD containing "microsoftoffice2021profullversion+keygen+crack.rar"

sure, it will work for a bit... and then when you update your OS it breaks...or when you access the internet it breaks... or your antivirus deletes a file cause it's modded and it breaks.

there is no "keyless" version of this software. it's always required a key and anything that doesn't, is a hack and stolen software.

at this point, you are best to go to ebay or wherever you purchased it from and get you money back, cause you where literally scammed into buying stolen software.

this software and it's keys are expensive because you literally pay for the ability to make money with it.

"home" versions of software like what you can get from golden tee and pinballs and stuff have the coin acceptance ability removed out of them, which is why the "home" versions of these are so much cheaper... you pay 5,000 bucks more for a pinball machine you can put somewhere and charge people to play and make money with.

2014 software and key is expensive, yes... but it was expensive to begin with.
Title: Re: Megatouch security key saver for all Maxx, Force, Ion - looking for beta testers
Post by: tlandrews on May 26, 2022, 08:16:51 pm
Thanks I checked and I am unfortunately out of the return window. It took me a while before I could get it installed

Well I guess for now I can enjoy the games that don't crash
Title: Re: Megatouch security key saver for all Maxx, Force, Ion - looking for beta testers
Post by: Megatouchmike on May 27, 2022, 07:17:44 am
well yeah...it "works"...


works about as good as buying a burned CD containing "microsoftoffice2021profullversion+keygen+crack.rar"

MeRiT.iOn.2014.iNCL.KeYLeSS.100%.WoRKs.nO.ViRuS.[MeGaMSHiT].jpg.exe

Yep another satisfied customer!!  Just saw one of these drives in my shop a couple weeks ago  :angry:
Title: Re: Megatouch security key saver for all Maxx, Force, Ion - looking for beta testers
Post by: Dazzzzz on May 29, 2022, 01:45:49 am
...
2014 software and key is expensive, yes... but it was expensive to begin with.

Facts!!! - i paid 500 for my 2014 Key when it was first released, seemed like a bargain at the time for the latest software upgrade (i didnt realise it would be the last!)
Ive seen it on ebay now for half that price (original key obviously!) so to be fair its not even that expensive

I know Tri-Towers generated an error eventually without the key but I havent seen anything about other games not working, i wonder how many other issues it generates
Title: Re: Megatouch security key saver for all Maxx, Force, Ion - looking for beta testers
Post by: MomoneDk on July 04, 2022, 10:57:10 am
For myself i plan to buy a dallas key reader / programmer.
So when a key is dead, i may change the battery inside (yes, it's insane), and reprogram the dallas.

Not the best solution, but good enough.
Title: Re: Megatouch security key saver for all Maxx, Force, Ion - looking for beta testers
Post by: navaroli on July 04, 2022, 12:54:23 pm
Are you still looking for testers?  I'm able to test all Force and Ion versions (and the Maxx versions that run on Force hardware due to unofficial hard drive - eg: emerald, ruby, sapphire).
Title: Re: Megatouch security key saver for all Maxx, Force, Ion - looking for beta testers
Post by: mahkeymike on July 04, 2022, 01:35:29 pm
For myself i plan to buy a dallas key reader / programmer.
So when a key is dead, i may change the battery inside (yes, it's insane), and reprogram the dallas.

Not the best solution, but good enough.

Yes, its insane considering Mikes key saver is soo much easier and cheaper. Trust me, I have already done exactly what you "plan" to do.
Title: Re: Megatouch security key saver for all Maxx, Force, Ion - looking for beta testers
Post by: MomoneDk on July 04, 2022, 01:59:54 pm
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Yes, its insane considering Mikes key saver is soo much easier and cheaper. Trust me, I have already done exactly what you "plan" to do.

I am not a linux user, so if Linux is needed, i cannot do the trick.
Title: Re: Megatouch security key saver for all Maxx, Force, Ion - looking for beta testers
Post by: mahkeymike on July 04, 2022, 02:04:53 pm
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Yes, its insane considering Mikes key saver is soo much easier and cheaper. Trust me, I have already done exactly what you "plan" to do.

I am not a linux user, so if Linux is needed, i cannot do the trick.

You don't need a linux PC to copy the files to a fat32 formatted usb stick.
Title: Re: Megatouch security key saver for all Maxx, Force, Ion - looking for beta testers
Post by: MomoneDk on July 04, 2022, 02:15:41 pm
No linux knowledges needed, cool !!!!
Oh, i have several versions of MAXX, XL, FORCE and ION.
So i am ready to try the trick.
Title: Re: Megatouch security key saver for all Maxx, Force, Ion - looking for beta testers
Post by: DrAlves on July 07, 2022, 04:10:37 pm
Hey all,

Working on a new project, a linux shared library that will automatically dump your security key and load it from disk on subsequent boots.  Basically, what this will do is protect your machine in the event that the battery in your security key dies.  We all know keys dying today are rare, and even though my original Maxx key from 1999 is still working, time is ticking...

This will *not* make your machine keyless but instead check to see if the same key is still inserted (the serial can be read even after the key dies), and if so, return the original key data to the game so that it boots.  The best part about this library is that it's one file that will run on all Linux-based platforms (Maxx, Force, Ion).  For Force and Ion, it can be permanently loaded onto your machine simply by putting a USB stick in it when booting.  Maxx will require some extra work due to lack of USB support.

Advantages
- Works with your existing hard drive (no hard drive swapping needed)
- Completely free of any binary hacking
- Completely free of side effects from buggy keyless hacks (like volume control not working, tri-towers crashing)
- Will 100% pass all in-game checksums for that original megatouch feel  :lol
- No entering commands into the linux shell
- Will survive factory resets
- Drive can be easily cloned and still boot as long as you have your original security key (regardless if dead or not)
- Save your security key forever, eventually will incorporate a feature where it will save the key back to the USB stick in case a new hard drive/reinstall is necessary

Disadvantages
- It's an alpha/beta version so there might be some issues but it can't (at least in theory?) completely kill your machine, so I recommend backing up your hard drive before using

Looking for anyone who might be willing to test.  I am designing this for people who have never worked on megatouches/arcades before to make it as easy as possible, so you are welcome to test if you know how to plug in a USB drive to your megatouch and turn it on  :P

Mike i have one crazy idea for Megatouch projects! Can you send me a PM? Thanks
Title: Re: Megatouch security key saver for all Maxx, Force, Ion - looking for beta testers
Post by: Megatouchmike on July 08, 2022, 07:01:45 am
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