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Title: Project Spectrum [final stage]
Post by: barrymossel on July 01, 2018, 04:30:02 am
I started with some cabinet made of scaffolding wood, but that just didn't feel "authentic" enough. Than, after some good advice, I made my "own" cabinet design in Sketchup, based on the Galaga cabinet, but adjusted to become more slim. The theme back then was The Dutch (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,156128.msg1639030.html), but that was just too... eehm... orange.
I am still going with that design though, but decided on some retro side-art and eventually some more quality stuff (controls, etc.).


Cabinet design:

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=149895.0;attach=368834;image) (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=149895.0;attach=368836;image) (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=149895.0;attach=368838;image)

I added the SKP's and side art files (without the design) of the most panels below. Please bear in mind that the 90 degree corners of the side panels aren't exactly 90 degrees (made a small miscalculation) and the height might be not your personal preference (I also added about an inch (3 cm) at the bottom as I wanted to use leds below the cab).

I asked a former colleague (art director at my former job) to design some retro art and it turned out pretty well (I did the button layout on the control panel myself):

Marquee (not decided on the name of the cabinet yet):

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=149895.0;attach=368840;image)

Control panel (one service button that works as a shift button and two player buttons):

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=149895.0;attach=368842;image)

Side art and kick panel:

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=149895.0;attach=368844;image)

I have printed the side panels on A3 paper and taped it together so I could stencil it on MDF. Now I have to start with the real woodwork (everything is cut to measure though, except the side panels).
Title: Re: Project No Name Yet [designing phase]
Post by: Mike A on July 01, 2018, 08:04:38 am
I like your cabinet design. I like your artwork. Nice!
Title: Re: Project No Name Yet [designing phase]
Post by: smass on July 01, 2018, 09:25:37 am
I like the slimmed down profile.  I have a friend who has been bugging me to build him a mame cab and your design would fit the bill nicely.  For him I would probably order up galaga artwork for CP, bezel, marquee and coin door panel - did you keep all those dimensions and just slim down the depth?
Title: Re: Project No Name Yet [designing phase]
Post by: Mike A on July 01, 2018, 10:27:30 am
I was just thinking there weren't enough Galaga themed cabinets. I am so glad another one is in the works.
Title: Re: Project No Name Yet [designing phase]
Post by: yamatetsu on July 01, 2018, 10:48:19 am
If I read this correctly, the color bars from the CP overhang and the front plate will be kinda disconnected, vertical bars from the CP will sit on horizontal bars from the kickplate. I would connect those bars like shown on the right.

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=149895.0;attach=368858)

Maybe you could connect them using arcs, so that it doesn't look so blocky.

I also would change the bars in the marquee so that they connect to those of the CP.

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=149895.0;attach=368856)
Title: Re: Project No Name Yet [designing phase]
Post by: barrymossel on July 01, 2018, 11:25:26 am
I like your cabinet design. I like your artwork. Nice!
Thanks!

I like the slimmed down profile.  I have a friend who has been bugging me to build him a mame cab and your design would fit the bill nicely.  For him I would probably order up galaga artwork for CP, bezel, marquee and coin door panel - did you keep all those dimensions and just slim down the depth?
The front is almost the same, the top back is a bit more curved. If you like I can provide the AI and/or SKP files.

If I read this correctly, the color bars from the CP overhang and the front plate will be kinda disconnected, vertical bars from the CP will sit on horizontal bars from the kickplate. I would connect those bars like shown on the right.

Maybe you could connect them using arcs, so that it doesn't look so blocky.

I also would change the bars in the marquee so that they connect to those of the CP.

I realised that as well, but wanted to see it rendered in Sketchup before I do some big changes. Unfortunately I am running the free version of Sketchup at the moment that doesn't import textures. Might download some "test-version" later.
I don't think I like the alternative though, so that would mean changing the art quite drastically or the cabinet design maybe (so the overhang will be bigger).

---edit---
Might do something like this maybe:

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=149895.0;attach=368860;image)

That way the control panel stripes and the stripes that go over the kick plate won't be connected...
Title: Re: Project No Name Yet [designing phase]
Post by: yamatetsu on July 01, 2018, 01:09:23 pm
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=149895.0;attach=368860;image)

That way the control panel stripes and the stripes that go over the kick plate won't be connected...

That would still leave the CP overhang bars kinda hanging in the air. Maybe you could give them a rounded end?

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=149895.0;attach=368862)
Title: Re: Project No Name Yet [designing phase]
Post by: barrymossel on July 01, 2018, 01:20:20 pm
Just reinstalled my laptop. Hopefully I can try Sketchup Pro for 30 days again...
Title: Re: Project No Name Yet [designing phase]
Post by: barrymossel on July 01, 2018, 03:00:26 pm
Having a hard time scaling and positioning the textures, but it gives an ok view:

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=149895.0;attach=368864;image)

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=149895.0;attach=368866;image)

I think it looks ok. Especially from all angles.  The marquee is just a different part and I like it diagonal there better. The control panel stripes seem hanging loose a bit, but I think its ok. Rounding it off just doesn't feel right.

Opinions?
Title: Re: Project No Name Yet [designing phase]
Post by: yotsuya on July 01, 2018, 04:15:22 pm
Looks good
Title: Re: Project No Name Yet [designing phase]
Post by: Laythe on July 01, 2018, 04:26:18 pm
I like it.  Good shape and proportions.

I think I'd try dropping the bottom-most quarter rainbows off the sides.  I think the big upper stripe is doing everything that needs done, there.
Title: Re: Project No Name Yet [designing phase]
Post by: rave0035 on July 01, 2018, 08:51:09 pm
Looks really good.  I agree - I would drop the bottom rainbow. 

The black coin door will look great there!

Mike
Title: Re: Project No Name Yet [designing phase]
Post by: barrymossel on July 02, 2018, 01:50:50 am
Then it would become something like this.

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=149895.0;attach=368908;image)

I do agree this looks good as well, but maybe a bit "boring"?

---edit---

Have to decide on the color for t-molding and controls still. I currently have white, but I guess that's more white than the white yellowish in the art. So as the arcs have black in it, that might look nice.

Comparison:

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=149895.0;attach=368920;image)
Title: Re: Project No Name Yet [designing phase]
Post by: TheGreatRedDragon on July 02, 2018, 01:23:19 pm
Very classy design.
Title: Re: Project No Name Yet [designing phase]
Post by: barrymossel on July 02, 2018, 01:39:46 pm
Just ordered the artwork, without the bottom arc. Just didn't decide on the name yet, so I didn't order the marquee.

So for a name... ARC-cade is applicable, yet cheesy. Just Arcade does the job as well. But I would like something more original. Will stay thinking for a while. But if someone has any ideas, feel free.
Title: Re: Project No Name Yet [designing phase]
Post by: firedance on July 03, 2018, 12:04:50 am
Nice clean looking cabinet, the moment I saw the graphics I instantly thought of Sinclair spectrum, 8bit computer back in the 80s has a very similar rainbow stripe for its logo -

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZX_Spectrum (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZX_Spectrum)

Sinclair zx spectrum is too long a name so how about "spectrum" (minus the speech marks) ?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/dictionary.cambridge.org/amp/english/spectrum (https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/dictionary.cambridge.org/amp/english/spectrum)
Title: Re: Project No Name Yet [designing phase]
Post by: barrymossel on July 03, 2018, 07:09:48 am
Nice clean looking cabinet, the moment I saw the graphics I instantly thought of Sinclair spectrum, 8bit computer back in the 80s has a very similar rainbow stripe for its logo -

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZX_Spectrum (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZX_Spectrum)

Sinclair zx spectrum is too long a name so how about "spectrum" (minus the speech marks) ?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/dictionary.cambridge.org/amp/english/spectrum (https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/dictionary.cambridge.org/amp/english/spectrum)
Spectrum sounds actually nice. Will consider this for sure! :)
Title: Re: Project Spectrum? [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: barrymossel on August 22, 2018, 03:01:14 pm
Finally started woodworking. Took me some time to finally pick up the router and jig saw, but I began. After quite some saw dust I managed to do an ok side.

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=149895.0;attach=369945;image)

Hopefully tomorrow I will do the other side (if the flush trim bit I ordered fits my new router). The rest of the wood should already be mostly cut to size already.

Should T-molding be all around actually? So also bottom and backside?
Title: Re: Project Spectrum? [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: jdbailey1206 on August 22, 2018, 04:21:58 pm
Should T-molding be all around actually? So also bottom and backside?

I've seen it done multiple ways barry.  The most common is where it is wrapped around the entire perimeter of the side and ends at the bottom.  Whether it meets in the center or not.  Stapling is also an option at the bottom.

Look at this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdsQiawcV00) @ 56:20 to see what I mean.  One staple on either side of the t molding is enough.  This guy got a little out of hand.  He did not meet his ends together but I've seen it both ways.  Meeting and not meeting.
Title: Re: Project Spectrum? [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: yotsuya on August 22, 2018, 05:02:49 pm
Finally started woodworking. Took me some time to finally pick up the router and jig saw, but I began. After quite some saw dust I managed to do an ok side.

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=149895.0;attach=369945;image)

Hopefully tomorrow I will do the other side (if the flush trim bit I ordered fits my new router). The rest of the wood should already be mostly cut to size already.

Should T-molding be all around actually? So also bottom and backside?

Do it all the way around - it’ll protect the bottom of the plywood from snagging and splintering.
Title: Re: Project Spectrum? [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: firedance on August 23, 2018, 02:01:48 am
Looks like he used MDF not plywood ;) either way it should protect the ends, on my last 2 bartops i used chrome trim all the way round.
Title: Re: Project Spectrum? [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: barrymossel on August 23, 2018, 05:16:55 am
Thanks guys. I already noticed the hard way that MDF isn't really forgiving when it hits a wall or something. Luckily it was the uncut side panel that got a quite deep bump (but I can cut that off).
T-molding all around it is. Will have to buy me some new T-molding probably then as I don't think I have enough. But at least I can then change colors still!  ;D
Title: Re: Project Spectrum? [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: barrymossel on August 23, 2018, 12:50:53 pm
And we have the next side panel. Including the t-molding slot... all around. The slot is a tad too wide (2mm), so the t-molding is peeled out easily. So I will glue that later on...

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=149895.0;attach=369981;image)
Title: Re: Project Spectrum? [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: yotsuya on August 23, 2018, 01:56:52 pm
Looks like he used MDF not plywood ;) either way it should protect the ends, on my last 2 bartops i used chrome trim all the way round.

Yes, but the same thought process still applies. I’ve seen tons of cab bottoms get torn up without that protection.
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: barrymossel on September 13, 2018, 03:48:40 pm
And I made a bit more progress. The base is standing. And from now it should go quite (relatively) fast...

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=149895.0;attach=371017;image)

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=149895.0;attach=371019;image)

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=149895.0;attach=371021;image)

I was actually quite amazed by how wide it looks. I hope I can get it downstairs when finally assembled (it's in the attic now). Or maybe I should assemble the whole downstairs... Control panel is a bit more than 25 inches wide (+ 2x 3/4 inch).
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: javeryh on September 13, 2018, 04:10:58 pm
Most interior doors are 28-30" wide so you should be OK but I'd do a bit of measuring just to be safe.  Love the design and the art on this one.   :cheers:
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: barrymossel on September 13, 2018, 04:15:11 pm
Thanks!

The problem isn't exactly the doors, but more the stairs. I couldn't even get a small IKEA bank up the stairs because of the turn it makes. Might have to make a cardboard version just to test if we can get it downstairs  ;D

Or just not glue the whole...
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: javeryh on September 13, 2018, 04:18:48 pm
haha - my house is like that too.  I cannot get a king size bed to the master bedroom.  It will not make the 180 degree turn going up the stairs.
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: firedance on September 14, 2018, 12:24:04 am
Looking good so far, nice name for your project  ;D
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: barrymossel on September 14, 2018, 05:34:06 am
Looking good so far, nice name for your project  ;D
Haha thanks for your suggestion ;D
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: barrymossel on September 16, 2018, 06:30:00 am
I am in the process of placing the control panel at a small angle. Just wondering if it's too steep?

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=149895.0;attach=371183;image)

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=149895.0;attach=371185;image)

I'm not good at guessing the angle, so I won't even try.
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: firedance on September 16, 2018, 11:11:58 am
the angle looks ok to me, my bartop control panels are 10 degrees, maybe yours is 15 degrees, did you do a test angle below you glued it in ?
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: barrymossel on September 17, 2018, 04:02:08 am
I guess it feels ok. But unfortunately I forgot to route a space for the joysticks. I did have spare wood for a new control panel, so I routed that. But I guess the height setting of the router changed (too loose?) and P2 was routed to approx 1-2 mm mdf left.

So now I can do three things.


What would you guys do?
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: Mike A on September 17, 2018, 04:06:43 am
Why do you question the fit if you start over with a new panel?
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: barrymossel on September 17, 2018, 04:09:42 am
All the wood was cut at the same time, so the settings of the saw would have been exactly the same for the width of the cabinet probably. I'm afraid that when I order new wood (or cut it myself) it could be off a mm or so (don't have the best experience with wood ordered to size).
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: Mike A on September 17, 2018, 04:12:25 am
Just make sure you slightly oversize it. You can sand it down to the correct size.
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: barrymossel on September 17, 2018, 04:15:16 am
Good advice! Thanks!
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: firedance on September 17, 2018, 08:10:28 am
what type of router do you have a full sized one plunge type or a trimmer ?

bought a trimmer like the one below a couple of years ago, so much easier to use and smaller, can be used one handed if you feel safe enough and have the grip strength :)

 
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KATSU-3-8-1-4-Electric-Hand-Trimmer-Wood-Laminator-Router-Joiners-Tool-220V/281944547910?
hash=item41a5346246:g:dTYAAOSwlMFZKfh3 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KATSU-3-8-1-4-Electric-Hand-Trimmer-Wood-Laminator-Router-Joiners-Tool-220V/281944547910?hash=item41a5346246:g:dTYAAOSwlMFZKfh3)

before someone chimes in it's a knock off of a well known brand that begins with M but at a quarter of  the price, maybe not for trade use but perfectly fine for the home diy'er.

how thick is the panel, maybe you don't have to route if the joysticks are long enough ?

Title: Re: Project Spectrum [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: barrymossel on September 17, 2018, 12:44:53 pm
what type of router do you have a full sized one plunge type or a trimmer ?

bought a trimmer like the one below a couple of years ago, so much easier to use and smaller, can be used one handed if you feel safe enough and have the grip strength :)

 
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KATSU-3-8-1-4-Electric-Hand-Trimmer-Wood-Laminator-Router-Joiners-Tool-220V/281944547910?
hash=item41a5346246:g:dTYAAOSwlMFZKfh3 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KATSU-3-8-1-4-Electric-Hand-Trimmer-Wood-Laminator-Router-Joiners-Tool-220V/281944547910?hash=item41a5346246:g:dTYAAOSwlMFZKfh3)

before someone chimes in it's a knock off of a well known brand that begins with M but at a quarter of  the price, maybe not for trade use but perfectly fine for the home diy'er.

how thick is the panel, maybe you don't have to route if the joysticks are long enough ?
It's a Bosch plunge router. It works quite well, but I guess I pressed too hard so it went through the depth setting, leaving just 1-2 mm of board.

The panel is 18 mm (3/4"), so I believe without the longer shafts it won't work that well.
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: Drnick on September 18, 2018, 03:09:19 am
I did exactly the same thing with my bartop.  What I did to fix was get a couple of pieces of hardboard, cut them to size to fit the routed out square, glued the crap out of them used some clamps to hold tightly, waited a day for glue to set and then redrilled the joystick hole.  I undermounted with inserts and had no problems at all. 
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=103207.0;attach=277793)
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: barrymossel on September 18, 2018, 03:58:33 am
I did exactly the same thing with my bartop.  What I did to fix was get a couple of pieces of hardboard, cut them to size to fit the routed out square, glued the crap out of them used some clamps to hold tightly, waited a day for glue to set and then redrilled the joystick hole.  I undermounted with inserts and had no problems at all. 
(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=103207.0;attach=277793)
Thanks, I will try that later. I am also considering getting 12mm plywood for the control panel. No need to route then.
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: Mike A on September 18, 2018, 06:04:28 am
I would suggest cutting a new CP. You need to learn the quirks of your particular router. That way you won't have the same problem on future projects. Consider it router training.
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: barrymossel on September 18, 2018, 06:32:36 am
I would suggest cutting a new CP. You need to learn the quirks of your particular router. That way you won't have the same problem on future projects. Consider it router training.
You would advice against a 12mm panel? I thought some people recommend using 12mm (1/2") plywood?

And yes I should practise with my router a bit more. But I have quite some things to do where I can practise...
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: Mike A on September 18, 2018, 06:47:03 am
I don't advise against it. It will work fine. I just take every opportunity to use my routers. They can be ornery beasts. The more you use them the better off you are.
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: bperkins01 on September 18, 2018, 07:11:03 am
If you have the opportunity to use cabinet grade plywood for your CP - I recommend that over 1/2" MDF.   It will be much stiffer.  You won't find it at a box store however..  I woodworking supply store (like Woodcraft) will have a selection.  Nice design and nice Sketchup work! 
The free version of Sketchup should still be out there. Are you using Pro features?
FWIW:  My CP is 5 deg down. 
If you can - don't finalize your angle until you test a little bit.  I did a mockup of my setup on the bench and experimented quite a while to get something comfortable.
Following ;)
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: Mike A on September 18, 2018, 07:34:52 am
Woodcraft is a great store. I took a woodworking class at a Woodcraft store a couple of years ago.
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: bperkins01 on September 18, 2018, 07:37:59 am
I worked at one (part time) for ~7 years..  Spent way more on tools than I ever made there...  Really a great place and the people know the products.
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: barrymossel on September 18, 2018, 09:18:08 am
If you have the opportunity to use cabinet grade plywood for your CP - I recommend that over 1/2" MDF.   It will be much stiffer.  You won't find it at a box store however..  I woodworking supply store (like Woodcraft) will have a selection.  Nice design and nice Sketchup work! 
The free version of Sketchup should still be out there. Are you using Pro features?
FWIW:  My CP is 5 deg down. 
If you can - don't finalize your angle until you test a little bit.  I did a mockup of my setup on the bench and experimented quite a while to get something comfortable.
Following ;)
Yup, I was planning on plywood for the control panel (currently it's MDF). I'm in the Netherlands and we have some options to order (custom cut) board in all kinds of quality.

I used the free (online) version of Sketchup. Then when I needed the Pro features (such as textures) I downloaded the free trial of Pro (30 days fully functional). If I need it again I can always re-install my laptop to start a new trial. I don't use it that much to justify €600 for a standalone license.
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: barrymossel on September 29, 2018, 11:23:37 am
Slowly I am making progress...

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=149895.0;attach=371512;image)

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=149895.0;attach=371514;image)

I lifted the cabinet about 3cm from the ground as I want to place wheels in the back like in this build: http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,141846.msg1468043.html#msg1468043 (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,141846.msg1468043.html#msg1468043) and to make some room for of course some shabby led strip on the bottom.
Now on to the harder part: placing the monitor in such a way I have just enough room for the glass I'll have to order. And the positioning of the controls...
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: villageidiot333 on September 29, 2018, 12:10:02 pm
I just started my build based on your cabinet. I did some streetfight side art for it. Drew some inspiration from another street fighter build here.

 I screwed up one side cut though and had to wait till this weekend to go pick up another sheet of mdf but it hasn't stopped raining. MDF and water don't go well together lol. I should be able to salvage some of the other sheet I messed up my cut on for other parts. Pretty excited I'm gong to have a full size cab now. I was going to destroy my bartop but maybe post a listing locally if anyone wants a bartop shell. I'd hate to destroy it.
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: barrymossel on September 29, 2018, 12:20:31 pm
I just started my build based on your cabinet. I did some streetfight side art for it. Drew some inspiration from another street fighter build here.

 I screwed up one side cut though and had to wait till this weekend to go pick up another sheet of mdf but it hasn't stopped raining. MDF and water don't go well together lol. I should be able to salvage some of the other sheet I messed up my cut on for other parts. Pretty excited I'm gong to have a full size cab now. I was going to destroy my bartop but maybe post a listing locally if anyone wants a bartop shell. I'd hate to destroy it.

I'm really looking forward to your progress. I hope you'll be a bit faster than I.
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: villageidiot333 on September 29, 2018, 12:54:36 pm
I just started my build based on your cabinet. I did some streetfight side art for it. Drew some inspiration from another street fighter build here.

 I screwed up one side cut though and had to wait till this weekend to go pick up another sheet of mdf but it hasn't stopped raining. MDF and water don't go well together lol. I should be able to salvage some of the other sheet I messed up my cut on for other parts. Pretty excited I'm gong to have a full size cab now. I was going to destroy my bartop but maybe post a listing locally if anyone wants a bartop shell. I'd hate to destroy it.

I'm really looking forward to your progress. I hope you'll be a bit faster than I.

I need to since wife uses garage to park her car in and have another car in other side so doesn't leave much space to store it between builds. So need to get cabinet done fast, sand, prime and move in doors and put in the guts from the bartop. Hope this weekend I can get pretty far since after the side I messed up is the harder part..the rest is just square cuts. Hope to get all parts cut today and start assembling tomorrow. Want to put wheels too.  I have some that go in back so you can tilt back cabinet and roll it. Not sure if I'll use those though.
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: barrymossel on October 06, 2018, 07:02:04 am
And we added the screen. Took me more work than expected, but managed to use some plate the screen clicks in that was in the stand.

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=149895.0;attach=371766;image)

All that's left:
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: villageidiot333 on October 06, 2018, 11:47:00 am
I'm hoping to get mine done so I can sand, prime and paint to get it ready for the art too. I still need to get a coin door though. :-( Going to go pick up primer and black paint today and have it ready. I'm going to make a slight change in your design to the top marquee, speaker and bezel.
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: barrymossel on October 07, 2018, 02:27:50 pm
In the end I made some changes as well. Just make it to your own likings!
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: barrymossel on October 20, 2018, 07:57:49 am
The marquee arrived! Looks really nice I must say:

(https://tweakers.net/ext/f/grelFEcEibz6ehgElzlVvoyr/full.jpg)

Plexiglass printed on the back...

And I added switches to the coin door return buttons so they can act as coin buttons for free play.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQbICZefLrU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQbICZefLrU)
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: firedance on October 20, 2018, 09:03:31 am
looking good so far  :)
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: Mike A on October 20, 2018, 09:28:23 am
Looking good.
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: Felsir on October 25, 2018, 05:00:57 am
Plexiglass printed on the back...

That looks really smooth! Is the plexi still transparent enough to have a backlight illuminate the marquee?
Where did you get it? So far the only services I found were hugely expensive and/or only used to print portraits etc. thus had only photopaper-like dimensions.
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: barrymossel on October 25, 2018, 07:19:01 am
Plexiglass printed on the back...

That looks really smooth! Is the plexi still transparent enough to have a backlight illuminate the marquee?
Where did you get it? So far the only services I found were hugely expensive and/or only used to print portraits etc. thus had only photopaper-like dimensions.
Works perfectly fine! Lighted with one led strip (warm white) from the underside.

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=149895.0;attach=372282;image)

Got it through a guy from Tweakers.net. I can provide you his e-mailaddress if you want. Their website is getting rebranded.
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: Jimbo on October 25, 2018, 03:10:13 pm
Looking good :)

Please tell me you're going to be able to play ZX Spectrum games on this!
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: meltman on October 25, 2018, 06:16:38 pm
Who did you order the artwork from? The marquee looks fantastic.
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: Ian on October 25, 2018, 08:38:17 pm
Love it!
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: JudgeRob on October 25, 2018, 11:37:53 pm
Nice Marq brotha!  I like the name and clean design.
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: barrymossel on October 26, 2018, 03:23:32 am
Who did you order the artwork from? The marquee looks fantastic.
I ordered it from some guy in the Netherlands. I believe he is starting a printing company (also specialized in arcade art). I wish I had ordered my side art from him as well, as he has the special vinyl with air holes for a good price. But unfortunately I already ordered that from pixartprinting. Will see how that'll work out.

Looking good :)

Please tell me you're going to be able to play ZX Spectrum games on this!
Will most certainly add an emulator for that!
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: barrymossel on November 10, 2018, 09:48:29 am
And there we have the bezel. Tinted glass, about 50% grey. Painted black on the backside:

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=149895.0;attach=372741;image)

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=149895.0;attach=372743;image)
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: Felsir on November 10, 2018, 09:52:47 am
Looks good!
Is the glass tint affecting the clarity of the monitor? I can imagine it does enhance the contrast?
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: barrymossel on November 10, 2018, 10:11:25 am
Looks good!
Is the glass tint affecting the clarity of the monitor? I can imagine it does enhance the contrast?
I would say it doesn't affect anything too much. Yes, it's darker so blacks are a bit more black. And by cranking up the brightness you still can see the screen very well. But all in all I don't find it much different than without tint.
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: barrymossel on November 14, 2018, 05:52:19 am
I will be probably starting painting this weekend (and adding the coin door). But I still have a couple of questions:


(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=149895.0;attach=372743;image)
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: villageidiot333 on November 14, 2018, 10:23:51 am
I will be probably starting painting this weekend (and adding the coin door). But I still have a couple of questions:

  • Do I need to paint the MDF after priming, before applying the side art?
  • Can I use spraypaint for a can after priming (on MDF)? And should I use matte, satin of gloss for the speaker panel?
  • What kind of vinyl should I get as an alternative black for the speaker panel? I ordered some and it looked way too "plastic".
  • Below you'll find my control panel again. I ordered a trackball before I found out it wouldn't quite fit on this control panel (with the servostiks etc.). But as I have a spare control panel I could make swappable panels, so one with the trackball. Would the trackball be too close to the screen? And would it be worth it (need a construction to swap, and don't know where to store the other control panel)?

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=149895.0;attach=372743;image)


I started painting mine. From what I read it says to paint with gloss so vinyl art will stick to it. I’m using spray paint for a smooth finish.


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Title: Re: Project Spectrum [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: Felsir on November 15, 2018, 07:13:40 am
I will be probably starting painting this weekend (and adding the coin door). But I still have a couple of questions:

  • Below you'll find my control panel again. I ordered a trackball before I found out it wouldn't quite fit on this control panel (with the servostiks etc.). But as I have a spare control panel I could make swappable panels, so one with the trackball. Would the trackball be too close to the screen? And would it be worth it (need a construction to swap, and don't know where to store the other control panel)?

It really depends on what you plan to play. In my first cab I had a trackball but only played Marble Madness once in a while. For the rest I used the trackball for Arkanoid and as "steering wheel" for a handful of racegames. So in version 2, I went for a spinner; and that saved space and it worked better for the majority of the games I actually played.

So in all, I recommend to make a list of games you like that actually require a trackball and then decide if it is worth implementing one.
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: Jimbo on November 15, 2018, 08:21:39 am
I use trackball, and as well as the usuals, I also find it works really well for the following games: star wars, empire strikes back, space harrier
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: yo1dog on November 15, 2018, 10:07:05 am
Would the trackball be too close to the screen?

I'd just try it and find out. Make a quick test control panel with your trackball and play a few rounds of missile command. See how it feels.

It looks like there is ~5 1/4" from the center of the trackball to the bezel on a missile command upright, if that helps at all.
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: barrymossel on November 17, 2018, 09:55:45 am
I guess I will try later on. I bought the trackball for games like Golden Tee or some bowling game, so that's why I'm not sure about the clearance to the screen.

But anyway, I got the coin door installed.

(https://tweakers.net/ext/f/RaJKgH5k5QzK7LR2Dy7RkbyS/full.jpg)

Have to think about a way to mount the speakers (grill etc.). And then off to painting.
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: bperkins01 on November 17, 2018, 09:59:21 am
I like the coin door...
It rarely gets used - but its fun to demo for first timers..

Funny part is - showing someone how to use the machine - they take a couple of 'duh' moments to tell them - the game requires a coin..  just like in the 80's..
So put one in or hit the coin button!
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: hurricanefan on December 28, 2018, 10:59:04 pm
Your build is coming together so nicely.  Dumb quesiton, what does the 1 black button on your control panel do? (Exit button?)

Is it possible to use your sketch up plans for the cab?  I've always wanted to build a cabinet and your design is my favorite from what I've seen on here.

Looking forward to more build pics as you progress.

HurricaneFan

Title: Re: Project Spectrum [finally woodworking phase]
Post by: barrymossel on January 02, 2019, 12:39:29 pm
Your build is coming together so nicely.  Dumb quesiton, what does the 1 black button on your control panel do? (Exit button?)

Is it possible to use your sketch up plans for the cab?  I've always wanted to build a cabinet and your design is my favorite from what I've seen on here.

Looking forward to more build pics as you progress.

HurricaneFan
Sure, no problem. I uploaded some files to the first post. The SKP's and side art files (without the design) of the most panels. Please bear in mind that the 90 degree corners of the side panels aren't exactly 90 degrees (made a small miscalculation) and the height might be not your personal preference (I also added about an inch (3 cm) at the bottom as I wanted to use leds below the cab).

The black button is the shift button. So combined with other buttons it controls certain functions (like volume up and down through the black button combined with P1 up and down, or close shift+start). I didn't want all those dedicated buttons so I decided on this.
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [painting]
Post by: hurricanefan on January 02, 2019, 01:10:49 pm
Thanks! I didn't realize you can control volume through the buttons too, thats really cool. Is that volume feature of the front end you are using?
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [painting]
Post by: barrymossel on January 02, 2019, 01:28:27 pm
Yes it is. Currently it's a feature of Emulationstation (Retropie), but I am quite confident this will be possible in front ends on Windows though (or as a function of Windows).
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [painting]
Post by: barrymossel on January 05, 2019, 06:08:46 am
Oh my god, I hate painting. But we're almost finished... Just one coat of black (I scratched it a bit). Started with art work and I like the look so far.

(https://tweakers.net/ext/f/N70N9F6iIxWV3lbkaDOBBMwo/full.jpg)

So just some more artwork on the sides, then T-molding. Then assembly and I should be done.
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [painting]
Post by: bperkins01 on January 05, 2019, 07:45:11 am
Looks nice  :applaud:

Glad you are past the pain of painting - Not a fan of that either.
Thanks for posting updates

Title: Re: Project Spectrum [painting]
Post by: Jimbo on January 05, 2019, 11:49:58 am
Looks great!  Did you paint the artwork or get it printed?
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [painting]
Post by: barrymossel on January 05, 2019, 02:03:37 pm
Looks great!  Did you paint the artwork or get it printed?

Thanks. It's printed. If this was my paint job, it wouldn't look any good.

Just did the sides as well:

(https://tweakers.net/ext/f/XvMbGeehRffN0quDUVbLn4OT/full.jpg)

Not sure about the t-molding though. Currently have some white installed, but as the sides aren't exactly white, but more yellowish/offwhite, I am considering black or orange t-molding. Will take a better look tomorrow...
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [final stage]
Post by: Seob on January 05, 2019, 05:28:04 pm
Nice. I to need to get my cabinet ready for painting. Not my favorit part. But seeing the white cabinet, think i will go with white as well.
Ziet er gewldig goed uit ;)
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [painting]
Post by: yamatetsu on January 05, 2019, 06:19:26 pm
Not sure about the t-molding though. Currently have some white installed, but as the sides aren't exactly white, but more yellowish/offwhite, I am considering black or orange t-molding.

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=149895.0;attach=374149)

I'd go with orange. White looks too bleak, black is too much of a contrast.
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [final stage]
Post by: villageidiot333 on January 05, 2019, 07:18:05 pm
Looks great!  Did you paint the artwork or get it printed?

Thanks. It's printed. If this was my paint job, it wouldn't look any good.

Just did the sides as well:

(https://tweakers.net/ext/f/XvMbGeehRffN0quDUVbLn4OT/full.jpg)

Not sure about the t-molding though. Currently have some white installed, but as the sides aren't exactly white, but more yellowish/offwhite, I am considering black or orange t-molding. Will take a better look tomorrow...


I like either the black or orange t-molding. Leaning more to orange though.


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Title: Re: Project Spectrum [painting]
Post by: barrymossel on January 06, 2019, 03:33:08 am
Not sure about the t-molding though. Currently have some white installed, but as the sides aren't exactly white, but more yellowish/offwhite, I am considering black or orange t-molding.

(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=149895.0;attach=374149)

I'd go with orange. White looks too bleak, black is too much of a contrast.
Thanks for taking the time buddy. You didn't make it easier though ;-)

I do agree the white is a bit bleak, but as I want to put the cab in the living room for a while I don't want it to be too outstanding. While I like the orange I think it's a bit too flashy having in your face the whole time. And the problem with the orange is that it will be quite hard to find the right kind of orange. And yes, the black is quite a contrast to the sides, but I still kind of like it.

So I guess I will order some longer samples of orange and black and I will try those. Thanks again!

---edit---
Hmmm, the wife likes the orange or black the most. Didn't see that coming... ;-)
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [final stage]
Post by: barrymossel on January 06, 2019, 04:12:25 am
Nice. I to need to get my cabinet ready for painting. Not my favorit part. But seeing the white cabinet, think i will go with white as well.
Ziet er gewldig goed uit ;)
Dankjewel! ;)
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [final stage]
Post by: firedance on January 06, 2019, 05:31:31 am
Looking awesome, black t-moulding works well for me too :)
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [final stage]
Post by: barrymossel on January 06, 2019, 12:58:14 pm
Will change the marquee retainers to black, but for the rest I'm quite happy. I will get some T-molding samples from my supplier in orange and black. So will decide on that later.

(https://tweakers.net/ext/f/J4OeKVwLiGyAt7cqYc10mOHZ/full.jpg)
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [final stage]
Post by: yotsuya on January 06, 2019, 02:36:14 pm
Looking good, Barry. Great example of a retro-inspired cab.
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [final stage]
Post by: Jimbo on January 06, 2019, 02:51:30 pm
Black or white I reckon... the orange overpowers the nice retro stripes, imo, giving them less impact.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [final stage]
Post by: Seob on January 06, 2019, 06:21:25 pm
Topper
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [final stage]
Post by: meltman on January 06, 2019, 08:38:47 pm
This cabinet came out superb. Well done!
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [final stage]
Post by: megamancave on January 08, 2019, 07:27:49 am
Excellent build!  Been working on a couple variations of this type cabinet as well.   Since you built the CP out of wood instead of metal, how are you holding it down?
can we get a pic of the inside brackets you used?
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [final stage]
Post by: Felsir on January 08, 2019, 07:28:18 am
Looks nice!
I'd go with black T-molding- it frames the cabinet nicely. The orange will only work if it is in the exact same hue as the color on the print.
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [final stage]
Post by: yotsuya on January 08, 2019, 07:33:25 am
I like the white molding. Looks classy.
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [final stage]
Post by: Mike A on January 08, 2019, 07:45:21 am
Nice job. The colors look great on the cab. I think any one of the stripe colors would be a good choice for T-molding color.
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [final stage]
Post by: barrymossel on January 08, 2019, 08:49:56 am
Thanks guys!

The t-molding samples are delivered to the neighbors today, so will check them tonight! But I must agree with yotsuya that I kinda start to like the white as well... We'll see. Most important for now is the marquee retainer... Will be thinking about that this weekend probably.
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [final stage]
Post by: Arroyo on January 08, 2019, 09:12:24 am
Another vote for white.  Graphics came out nice, good work.
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [final stage]
Post by: hurricanefan on January 08, 2019, 10:32:08 pm
Amazing work! I like the white too, Orange and black stood out too much.
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [final stage]
Post by: opt2not on January 08, 2019, 11:28:59 pm
Fantastic cab!

I agree with your colour choices. This thing screams class!  :applaud:
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [final stage]
Post by: Laythe on January 09, 2019, 03:41:39 am
That looks really good!  Glad to see it come together like that.  Well done.
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [final stage]
Post by: Ond on January 09, 2019, 04:33:33 am
Anything but white t-molding will distract from the really nice colour work in your graphics.  Go for white. 

Nice work.   :cheers:
Title: Re: Project Spectrum [final stage]
Post by: bperkins01 on January 09, 2019, 07:42:03 am
I like the black. 
Your cabinet is already bright (but not loud)
the white flattens it out and the orange pushes toward loud..
Very nice :)