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Arcade Collecting => Restorations & repair => Topic started by: Titchgamer on August 30, 2018, 01:31:49 pm

Title: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Titchgamer on August 30, 2018, 01:31:49 pm
So I have finally got to pick up the Area 51 cab :)

Which means I now have my first original arcade cab :)

So its not a orignal A51, Its a PAC cab that has been converted, Everything works except the marquee light and I cant get the coin door open at the moment but I will work on that!
The bodywork is not bad really but has quite a few small chunks missing, The T molding is knackered and the CP perspex is shattered and needs replacing. Ime not keen on the grey though so I am thinking I may re-cover it with black vinyl or something then add some artwork on ime not really sure atm. So even though its not that bad I still have a fair bit to do with it really.

I wont really be doing anything on it for a while as the wedding is draining all my useable funds and ime still trying to scrape enough to come see you crazy bunch at zapcon for our honeymoon :p

So I guess this is a notice of works for a resto project atm so dont expect any updates for quite some time :p

Anyways heres a pic for now, Ile get some more up later once I have some better light to work with.



Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Titchgamer on August 30, 2018, 02:23:47 pm
Anyone got any suggestions on how to bypass one of these coin doors?

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180830/3325214e51edfbc86b5fe093cce82c3c.jpg)

Locks been drilled out as you can see but the ---smurfette--- aint moving lmao
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Mike A on August 30, 2018, 02:24:43 pm
Dynamite.
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Titchgamer on August 30, 2018, 02:41:35 pm
Dynamite.

Thinking something slightly less destructive lmao
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Malenko on August 30, 2018, 03:03:52 pm
Do what my wife hates and go through the back door?
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Mike A on August 30, 2018, 03:07:15 pm
She hates going through your back door?
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Titchgamer on August 30, 2018, 03:37:31 pm
Do what my wife hates and go through the back door?

Did consider drilling through the back from the service door but it looks like its a big steel box at the back?
Hard to tell tbh.
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Titchgamer on August 30, 2018, 03:39:34 pm
Few more pics:

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180830/2090a854dc3170c0aedd549909a6c62c.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180830/77aa29c6e48b3cddd500e1e0ec31e281.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180830/5e02baa36ea04b59e771519638a379a6.jpg)
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Titchgamer on August 30, 2018, 03:39:57 pm
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180830/1f29d945a8ba1d29ea7771629e7ad605.jpg)
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Malenko on August 30, 2018, 03:59:56 pm
now upgrade the roms and drive to an Area 51/Maximum force combo
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Titchgamer on August 30, 2018, 04:10:33 pm
now upgrade the roms and drive to an Area 51/Maximum force combo

Funny you say that.....

When I brought it I was told it was a A51 & Max force duo. But its defo 51 site 4. But they guys sure I can change a dip to make it boot max force? Didnt know that was a thing tbh but ile have a tinker at some point.

As for my coin door prob I defo cant go in from the back, Theres a large steel coin collector in the way  :cry:
Also means I can go from the top as I wouldn't be able to get my hand down the back to get to the nut so I need to get the door open somehow....
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Mike A on August 30, 2018, 05:33:59 pm
Congrats on your first real cab. If you make it to Zapcon we have to sit down to a few good pints. I will even wait until it warms up to room temperature.
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Titchgamer on August 30, 2018, 06:02:08 pm
Congrats on your first real cab. If you make it to Zapcon we have to sit down to a few good pints. I will even wait until it warms up to room temperature.

Defo, But I like my beer cold!

The Germans like it warm I think?
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Mike A on August 30, 2018, 06:18:12 pm
It must be just an Irish thing.
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Mike A on August 30, 2018, 06:25:55 pm
Or I have bad Intel.
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Titchgamer on August 30, 2018, 07:49:15 pm
Or I have bad Intel.

Yeah think you need a more reliable source lol
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Mike A on August 30, 2018, 08:13:37 pm
I had a friend in college who spent 2 weeks over there and talked about the warm unfiltered beer he loved so much. :dunno
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Mike A on August 30, 2018, 08:15:54 pm
 I plan on crossing the Atlantic some time in the next couple of years. I want to take my kids to the UK and to Rome.
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Titchgamer on August 30, 2018, 09:09:45 pm
I plan on crossing the Atlantic some time in the next couple of years. I want to take my kids to the UK and to Rome.

Sod the UK ide go to Rome!

But if you ever do come over give me a shout and Ile take you for a proper pint lol
Title: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Titchgamer on August 31, 2018, 06:24:15 am
Little update for this morning.....

I broke into that damn coin door!

This sucker is proper heavy duty with 6mm thick steel plate door and a 10mm thick spring loaded deadbolt at the back!

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180831/79eb8232122fe7edd0a6fafc013d4fd0.jpg)

No permanent damage done so ime happy!
Now I can actually see the back it would of been easy to throw it over by wedging a angled o ring pick or something in the teeth to throw it over but I couldn't see or feel that before
But if anyone else ever comes across one of these monsters in the future you will know haha.
Anyways lock replaced and refitted the door.



Also found out why the marquee light doesn’t work - Its not there! LOL so think my next task will be to nab a small light fitting from work and wire it into the cabs mains.
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Mike A on August 31, 2018, 06:35:50 am
Dynamite would have been faster, but I guess your way works too.
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: jdbailey1206 on August 31, 2018, 09:02:40 am
Whatever you do Titch don't get rid of that sticker above the coin door.  It adds so much character.

Malenko - Might I suggest taking off your shoes when you are going in the back door?  Then you might get back door because of your back door etiquette.

And remember pints should only be drank from the type of pint glass pictured below.  Not one of the american atrocities.

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/418BILnAA9L.jpg)
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Titchgamer on August 31, 2018, 09:42:31 am
Whatever you do Titch don't get rid of that sticker above the coin door.  It adds so much character.

Malenko - Might I suggest taking off your shoes when you are going in the back door?  Then you might get back door because of your back door etiquette.

And remember pints should only be drank from the type of pint glass pictured below.  Not one of the american atrocities.

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/418BILnAA9L.jpg)

Nah planing on keeping that.
Want to keep the character as much as possible.
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Malenko on August 31, 2018, 10:26:51 am
shoes come off at the door, she IS Chinese
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: jdbailey1206 on August 31, 2018, 10:45:31 am
shoes come off at the door, she IS Chinese

Well if she is Chinese the next time you two are being intimate just yell "HERE COMES GENGHIS KHAN!" and slip it in.
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: nitrogen_widget on August 31, 2018, 02:11:51 pm
Whatever you do Titch don't get rid of that sticker above the coin door.  It adds so much character.

Malenko - Might I suggest taking off your shoes when you are going in the back door?  Then you might get back door because of your back door etiquette.

And remember pints should only be drank from the type of pint glass pictured below.  Not one of the american atrocities.

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/418BILnAA9L.jpg)

lightweights need a handle to hold their clear beer.

I prefer my homebrew IPA's to be ice cold and a little cloudy.
(https://imgur.com/gallery/3F8bFeG)


bah! I can brew beer but can't seem to post a picture of it from imgur on my phone.
/fail
carry on.
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: nitrogen_widget on August 31, 2018, 02:20:13 pm
shoes come off at the door, she IS Chinese

Well if she is Chinese the next time you two are being intimate just yell "HERE COMES GENGHIS KHAN!" and slip it in.

genghis khan is actually a very different act according to the urban dictionary. :censored:
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Titchgamer on September 01, 2018, 08:16:19 am
Small update for the day, New marquee light installed.

I opted for a 12” LED fitting to drop between the speakers.

It gives of a good light but think I need to get a reflector behind it to throw the light into the corners a bit more.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180901/4bf6faf0e66c0e03d5ebb172c2bf82fe.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180901/16d7e024cadc0618a414524459f5d813.jpg)
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Drnick on September 01, 2018, 01:33:31 pm
I read the Marquee as Area 51 Shite 4  >:D >:D
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Titchgamer on September 01, 2018, 01:58:00 pm
I read the Marquee as Area 51 Shite 4  >:D >:D

Think you may need glasses  :lol :lol
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: jdbailey1206 on September 04, 2018, 09:16:44 am
Think you may need glasses  :lol :lol

Pretty sure I saw a post with Drnick wearing glasses...so....
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Titchgamer on September 04, 2018, 09:35:15 am
Think you may need glasses  :lol :lol

Pretty sure I saw a post with Drnick wearing glasses...so....

Should of gone to specsavers.... :p
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Drnick on September 10, 2018, 01:44:24 pm
I get my hearing aids from Specsavers and my glasses from boots,  am I doing it wrong :)
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Titchgamer on September 10, 2018, 03:04:37 pm
I get my hearing aids from Specsavers and my glasses from boots,  am I doing it wrong :)

Thats the one lol
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Titchgamer on September 14, 2018, 08:38:42 am
Small update for the day, The HDD has now been swapped out!

I originally intended on using the CF flash method as I mentioned before, However turns out that Site 4 does not play nice with CF cards so that went out of the window.
I next looked into IDE SD card readers which are reported to work as long as they have a certain chip set, Which of course is now obsolete and unobtainable....

SOOOOO

After some more digging a Guy over on the KLOV had used a IDE to SATA adapter and used a SATA SSD module to install the game on,
So I tracked the bits down on Ebay and for the pricely sum of around £15 got the adapter and a 16gb module (Which are tiny!) and everything is now working great without the damn HDD whirling!

Incase anyone is interested in doing the same in the future the adapter was just a standard IDE/SATA adapter and the module was a Apacer 16GB MLC SATA Module.

Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Mike A on September 14, 2018, 08:42:46 am
 :applaud:
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Malenko on September 14, 2018, 11:05:25 am
Small update for the day, The HDD has now been swapped out!

I originally intended on using the CF flash method as I mentioned before, However turns out that Site 4 does not play nice with CF cards so that went out of the window.
I next looked into IDE SD card readers which are reported to work as long as they have a certain chip set, Which of course is now obsolete and unobtainable....

SOOOOO

After some more digging a Guy over on the KLOV had used a IDE to SATA adapter and used a SATA SSD module to install the game on,
So I tracked the bits down on Ebay and for the pricely sum of around £15 got the adapter and a 16gb module (Which are tiny!) and everything is now working great without the damn HDD whirling!

Incase anyone is interested in doing the same in the future the adapter was just a standard IDE/SATA adapter and the module was a Apacer 16GB MLC SATA Module.

hows about pictures, details, and product links so I can do the same thing to my A51/MF
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Titchgamer on September 14, 2018, 11:16:10 am
Small update for the day, The HDD has now been swapped out!

I originally intended on using the CF flash method as I mentioned before, However turns out that Site 4 does not play nice with CF cards so that went out of the window.
I next looked into IDE SD card readers which are reported to work as long as they have a certain chip set, Which of course is now obsolete and unobtainable....

SOOOOO

After some more digging a Guy over on the KLOV had used a IDE to SATA adapter and used a SATA SSD module to install the game on,
So I tracked the bits down on Ebay and for the pricely sum of around £15 got the adapter and a 16gb module (Which are tiny!) and everything is now working great without the damn HDD whirling!

Incase anyone is interested in doing the same in the future the adapter was just a standard IDE/SATA adapter and the module was a Apacer 16GB MLC SATA Module.

hows about pictures, details, and product links so I can do the same thing to my A51/MF

You can use a IDE to CF adapter on 51 MF.
Its just the site 4 board thats a awkward mofo!

I never took any pics before plugging it in (not much point now its so small its lost in there!)

But heres some links:

Adapter:

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F221012878864

SSD module:

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F132677710159

But you can use one of these on 51 mf:

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F302792109072


Title: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Titchgamer on September 15, 2018, 06:32:23 am
Was cleaning behind the glass this morning which gave me a better view of the HDD bit so here is the module installed (now fixed in place to the wood)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180915/3615d30cf09fc9290c69287554efc7a7.jpg)
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Titchgamer on April 03, 2019, 01:58:03 pm
Out of the back burner and back to life now the wedding is out of the way!

So me and the new Mrs Titchgamer had a day together vinyl coating the cab and putting new T moulding in.

So first off a bit of sanding and filling....

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190403/6affa3e44b9d243babc62684b33cf380.jpg)

There was more damage but ya get the idea ime sure lol

Next I cleaned the whole thing with isopropanol and then we started on the Pedestal and 1 side. Original plan was to 2 tone it black and the original Grey underneath a bit like this:

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190403/39c5caad005637833ce50acff5c31b4d.jpg)

However when we considered the Firey CP art we decided it wouldnt fit right so we ended up coating the whole thing.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190403/c66cedc0e2cf69385d23a807e353764d.jpg)

Neither of us had ever done any vinyl wrapping but we are both pleased with the results and we had some fun together.
We made some mistakes along the way but nothing drastic.

Sadly I couldn’t save the machine emptied over night sticker but I will get a new one to replace it as I liked that.

Next job is CP, Bezel and side logo art.

I am working on some custom side logos, Planing on using the original firey CP but not sure about the bezel yet....
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Mike A on April 03, 2019, 02:31:49 pm
Nice. It is great that you can share your hobby with your wife.
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Titchgamer on April 03, 2019, 03:55:26 pm
Nice. It is great that you can share your hobby with your wife.

Yup, I dont share all the prices though else she would kill me for the life insurance lol
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Mike A on April 03, 2019, 05:25:11 pm
The key is to be worth more alive than dead.
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Titchgamer on April 03, 2019, 05:25:50 pm
The key is to be worth more alive than dead.

Wish I was lol
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Titchgamer on April 14, 2019, 07:38:46 am
Well I spent some free time last week working on the artwork for the CP, Bezel and side logos.

Which is now ordered and waiting on delivery....

So as its my last weekend before I head back to work thought I would start to tackle the worst job of the lot...

The CP...

This old PAC cab was a conversion so the CP was drilled for a 2p 3 button layout originally and covered up with the now shattered perspex sheet and un-matching artwork.

This poses a challenge in filling up the holes so I needed to strip it back to bare metal so I can sweet talk the fabricators in work to either weld a new top sheet on top or patches underneath and fill with filler.

First things first take it off, Drill out the rivets holding the perspex on and start the art removal.

Sadly the artwork was on well and refused to peel so I had to pull the big guns out (heat gun set to max!) and burn it off.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190414/954d255ad5910a19ba50a1d8a477bc06.jpg)

So with that done I was hoping it would be easy to clean up but alas the adhesive was not giving up so easily...

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190414/9b51b642875014546ee9a20bc4c5e1a6.jpg)

So I tried more heat and a scraper but that didnt even touch it! It was stuck to last I tell ye that!

So I went olde skool on its ass with Wire wool and rubbing alcohol....

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190414/4320e8ddf94242f8323f96d8e4723480.jpg)

Several hours later and a arm so dead its a good job I am married later....

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190414/146855a903d7031657da82fa51aa031c.jpg)

So the next job will be getting the fabricators on it but at least its cleaned up ready for them!

Then waiting for the artwork.
The light at the end is in sight!!
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Titchgamer on April 16, 2019, 04:11:36 pm
Mixed day today....

So the CP is still with the welders and the artwork has arrived.

Got the side art on no problem and its looks great.

The Bezel however went far from smoothly!

Managed to get it on eventually but I aint happy with it so will be replacing it after making a few sizing adjustments.

Still it gives a good idea of how its going to pan out once 100% done.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190416/c67ff10b7dfeb3ba34ef29040da1d771.jpg)
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Titchgamer on April 18, 2019, 10:55:28 am
Small update for today.

The CP is now welded up!!

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190418/018005709625e131ffdce76762a0d793.jpg)

Only cost me a hour or 2 to fix the fabricators grinder :)

CBA to do anything with it today though its been a lonngggg day!

So I have a 4 day weekend now so will save it for then :)

Also my replacement sticker has arrived to replace the original I had to rip off plus a little extra one I made for fun.

Kind of wish I had made the credit sticker a little bigger now but nm...

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190418/927d8467942990b6669516a6cc5b1596.jpg)

Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Mike A on April 18, 2019, 11:00:00 am
Its coming along nicely.
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Titchgamer on April 18, 2019, 11:00:34 am
Its coming along nicely.

Cheers Mike :)
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Malenko on April 18, 2019, 01:49:45 pm
your PCB looks WAAAAAAAY different than my A51 and A51/MF boards.
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Titchgamer on April 18, 2019, 01:51:38 pm
your PCB looks WAAAAAAAY different than my A51 and A51/MF boards.

Yeah the site 4 board is a dual board.
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Malenko on April 18, 2019, 01:56:44 pm
I like the "hard drive hat"!

Cab looks good. I converted my America's Army cab to A51/MF and its currently stored at my moms house and she's been playing the crap out of it. I think she's going to try and keep it. I might let her.
It'll go well with her Mini MsPac:

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,138831.msg1435053.html
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Titchgamer on April 18, 2019, 02:00:20 pm
I like the "hard drive hat"!

Cab looks good. I converted my America's Army cab to A51/MF and its currently stored at my moms house and she's been playing the crap out of it. I think she's going to try and keep it. I might let her.
It'll go well with her Mini MsPac:

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,138831.msg1435053.html

Hah thats awesome!!

I would like to track down a a51/mf board to install in this as a second/third game but they are proving difficult to find!!
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Titchgamer on April 19, 2019, 10:10:50 am
Today has been a good day!

Its been one of those days when you finally see things come to be the way you envision them!

So bright and early start priming, Filling and sanding those damn holes!!

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190419/08d1bb63f3e5323414a5105ddea2d4de.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190419/0bcbcd15b6f710fb05ca361dd52caaf6.jpg)

Next I coated the CP in the black vinyl I used for the rest of the cab as I think that will stick to the steel better than the artwork and it adds a extra layer of thickness.

(Sorry forgot to get photo!)

Next we covered the panel with the CP artwork and learning from previous mistakes managed to get it down excellently first time!

And after reinstalling it, adding some shiny new red buttons and re-wiring the guns....

Voila!

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190419/b2745a995f107da82a802d0c6e0edd43.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190419/58e2c06dd786e15d95e86de1c822fbb1.jpg)

Now looking pretty damn good I think!

Sure beats that PAC art and its not to OTT for my house lol

Just waiting on the speaker covers from china and I will be calling this one done I think!


Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Mike A on April 19, 2019, 10:13:58 am
I really need a light gun cab.
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Titchgamer on April 19, 2019, 10:14:34 am
I really need a light gun cab.

You do!

But this one aint for sale
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Mike A on April 19, 2019, 10:16:10 am
 :'(
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Titchgamer on April 19, 2019, 10:17:22 am
:'(

Hey Mike, Just realised it looks like Dynomite going boom now
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Mike A on April 19, 2019, 10:22:13 am
?
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Titchgamer on April 19, 2019, 10:23:45 am
?

Look at your first post in this thread ;)
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Mike A on April 19, 2019, 10:31:41 am
I hardly remember yesterday.
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Titchgamer on April 19, 2019, 10:32:11 am
I hardly remember yesterday.

I am much the same these days lol
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Malenko on April 19, 2019, 11:02:03 am
That looks sharp. I like the blend from the CPO to the bezel, very cohesive!
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Titchgamer on April 19, 2019, 11:03:34 am
That looks sharp. I like the blend from the CPO to the bezel, very cohesive!

Thanks!

I used the top part of the CP art for the bottom part of the bezel to try and make it match a bit!
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Titchgamer on April 27, 2019, 09:58:22 am
Finishing touches... Speaker grills arrived!

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190427/464e7a4c329c247c37e34207aa4a9add.jpg)
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Mike A on April 27, 2019, 10:32:06 am
Nice.
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Malenko on April 27, 2019, 04:58:43 pm
Looks way better than my A51 cab for sure. It still has america's army side art =(
Title: Re: Area 51: Site 4
Post by: Titchgamer on April 27, 2019, 05:01:05 pm
Looks way better than my A51 cab for sure. It still has america's army side art =(

Well thats a easy fix ;)

I been playing it today properly and managed to finally kill the Queen ---smurfette---!

First time I have managed to kill her ass but I was determined today was the day!!