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| DJ_Izumi:
--- Quote from: jcterzin on February 02, 2010, 01:02:34 am ---anyways, I was thinking it was an issue with the front ends. I didnt realize that the developers were actually against this. --- End quote --- If the MAME could be used for commercial operations, then some MAME developers would be like 'Wait, if someone can make money off of this, I wanna get paid for my efforts in building it for him'. Then it'd snowball as developers dropped out feeling they should get paid, if some got paid they'd argue over who should get paid what, or if those who only made minor contributions should get paid, and of course who made what game work which is being used while someone who made another Majong game run that no one cares about or never use get paid and... It'd be a big mess. Everyone is a lot happier to volenteer their efforts when they know everyone else is getting paid nothing too. |
| Blanka:
If it is for wait, they should be on Free play anyway. Waiting is not really a service ;) Guess you won't make a ton of money on it. And even if you do, putting the money in your regular service (say you're a car mech working for 35$/hour, make it 36$!) and put the games on free play will give more consumer satisfaction, and they won't notice the price increase. And beside that you can always just do it. "What are you gonna do? Bleed on me?" |
| Blanka:
--- Quote from: DJ_Izumi on February 02, 2010, 01:10:59 am ---If the MAME could be used for commercial operations, then some MAME developers would be like 'Wait, if someone can make money off of this, I wanna get paid for my efforts in building it for him'. --- End quote --- I Thought MAME IS ALREADY used for commercial operations. I believe Taito Legends for example is nothing but MAME. The game owners will say FY to the mamedevs probably, as they cannot organise to file lawsuits against them. On the other hand. Think of this scenario: Steve JOBS want's MAME on his iPad store (iPad is auto-rotating 4:3 screen: made for classics!). He pays the mame-org a sum of cash, they think of a nice formula to divide it over members (Nicola getting millionaire and letting go his weird Trademark), and he arranges Taito, Capcom and co send in technicians to better mame even further. Mame goes full GNU open source and the deal is that Apple makes ROMS available for commercial use without DRM in their iPad store, so each Mamer can obtain legal titles. I think it will give more people access in a decent way to our great game heritage. In the end Jobs is only interested in 30% of each ROM sold, whether it is DRM'ed or not, music, app or crap. Does not matter. |
| DJ_Izumi:
--- Quote from: Blanka on February 02, 2010, 02:04:45 am ---I Thought MAME IS ALREADY used for commercial operations. I believe Taito Legends for example is nothing but MAME. The game owners will say FY to the mamedevs probably, as they cannot organise to file lawsuits against them. --- End quote --- Googling for 'MAME Taito Legends' doesn't turn up much, one thread someone links something and makes the accusation and other dismiss it. Whatever he links to seems to be a dead link. http://curmudgeongamer.com/2006/01/taito-legends-operation-wolf-and-pc.html This suggests the PC version contains MAME compatable ROMS, but the ROMs being MAME compatable does't make the emulator. Several emulators use ROMs in the same format as MAME. --- Quote from: Blanka on February 02, 2010, 02:04:45 am ---On the other hand. Think of this scenario: Steve JOBS want's MAME on his iPad store (iPad is auto-rotating 4:3 screen: made for classics!). He pays the mame-org a sum of cash, they think of a nice formula to divide it over members (Nicola getting millionaire and letting go his weird Trademark), and he arranges Taito, Capcom and co send in technicians to better mame even further. Mame goes full GNU open source and the deal is that Apple makes ROMS available for commercial use without DRM in their iPad store, so each Mamer can obtain legal titles. I think it will give more people access in a decent way to our great game heritage. In the end Jobs is only interested in 30% of each ROM sold, whether it is DRM'ed or not, music, app or crap. Does not matter. --- End quote --- But companies like Taito, Capcom, Konami and Namco have already built working emulators for their platforms, they've been building console and PC compilations for years afterall. Just port their own emulator technology to the iPhone. This is what Sega's done on their own afterall, they're rumored to have made a Genesis emulator for iPhone that will feature it's own 'store' internally for buying games to run on it. I don't see why you think Jobs would be instrumental in this at all. o.O |
| Blanka:
--- Quote from: DJ_Izumi on February 02, 2010, 02:45:47 am ---I don't see why you think Jobs would be instrumental in this at all. o.O --- End quote --- Because right now he's the only one understanding content dealing in the 21st century, and how to make money of millions of small software buys. And he's perfectionist enough to keep us away from lame retro-game-pack userinterfaces and the need to have a CD in our PC for every gamepack, with their non-uniformity in design. He's has enough goodwill in the industry to get loose bare ROM licenses (except from Nintendo, they are a pain in the ass to everyone, much like Steve himself ;) ) |
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