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Spanking in preschool
ark_ader:
I think you guys are so far out in lala land. Get a grip. Is it abuse or correction that got you all fired up?
When I went to school I was old enough to attend primary (like kindergarten) I was 4 and the attending year was 5 and I was a unruly child (no change) and I got whacked for not behaving. Actually they got tired of whacking me and made me sleep in the special cot for naughty kids (until I figured out that being good was a better idea) but corporal punishment was required and I am glad I got it. I must note that I was in the UK back in the old days when things were real quiet and if you were lucky you saw a moving car on the road. Yeah early 70s.
Whacking and cannings continued until I went though to high school, even though I got cracked by the teacher in 5th grade in California as I did in the schools in the UK. Nobody said they couldn't and my Mom was head of the PTA. Heck if she found out I would get a whack from her and my dad when he got home.
You need to ensure that small children respect and listen to adults at all times. Also it depends on the child and how they are brought up. But the teacher should be able to work in an environment that the subject taught is being learned and effective. If your child gets unruly - its the parent's fault not the child. A firm word should be enough from the teacher. The teacher should come to you to sort the matter out - not the other way around. Its your kid not the teachers, why should the teacher discipline your child?
I do not believe in beatings (I had a few) with metal rulers, fingers slammed under desks or kicked down the stairs - that's abuse. I won't start telling of the psychological abuse for being foreign, but that was added into the mix. That goes on even today. From the kids themselves! It all stems from day one. Kids today are far worse - scary worse and you guys are complaining.
The moment you let an unruly child disrupt a class or ignores a teacher or parent, then you are asking for trouble. I mean if you tell your child to stop at pedestrian crossings or near busy roads and they dont.....
No I don't have kids, and if I did one day - they would know how to behave when they left the house...... >:D
Dartful Dodger:
--- Quote from: shmokes on February 02, 2010, 06:17:27 pm ---I just mean the warning signs could be exactly the same for something serious.
--- End quote ---
Ah I see. I was just concentrating on the spanking.
You noticed minor issues and you wrote then off as minor issues. You're questioning your parenting because you're thinking that major issues with the preschool could have the same warnings.
One thing you're underestimating is your daughter. She told you she got spanked even though she got spanked for doing something wrong.
If you're worried you might not be able to protect your daughter from something bad you can relax. even if you don't see it, she will. She told you about a minor incident and you acted accordingly. If there is a major problem, she will tell you about it and you will also act accordingly.
shmokes:
Yeah, but I swear to god you are reinforcing my point. My daughter was telling me for six months that something was wrong (at 2 they have different ways of telling you). If it had been something worse, she couldn't have told me. She would probably just cry whenever I dropped her off. And it wouldn't get better. You see what I mean? Honestly, I am not questioning my parenting. But I have no doubt in my mind that I handled that poorly. It's spilled milk. And thank god it's just that. I totally know it ain't that big a deal. But it is what it is. A mistake.
@ ark_ader:
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HanoiBoi:
Just came across this and wanted to throw in my 2 cents...
Sure, the director proposed a scenario that is a possibility, but that doesn't make it true. If you haven't already done so, I would definitely speak directly to the teacher. In the conversation ask questions like 'Why was Maddy up?' 'Did she refuse to lay down?' 'Was she just not paying attention?' etc. The teacher will most likely provide additional details that will help you to connect the dots and help you to determine what may have actually transpired.
Also, don't hesitate to speak to the parents of Maddy's classmates and see if any of their children have had similar complaints. You can never be too cautious and no one would blame you for your inquiries.
I've always thought that there should be cameras / webcams in daycares and schools. Nothing is more precious than our children.
shmokes:
I would do that if I was more confident that Maddy was spanked, or if I suspected something really serious. My wife and I have both told Maddy a bunch of times that the teachers at her school are not allowed to spank her. I'm very confident that we will hear about it if she is spanked.
But I honestly don't know if it happened. I really don't. And while nothing is more precious than my child, I am cognizant of the fact that this lady's career is very very important to her, and the director's daycare is very important to her. And the last thing they need is an overreaction, making all the other parents paranoid that something's going on, etc. For now, this is enough for me. If I was sure it happened, or I suspected something worse, or if I thought that the director was not taking it seriously, I would go further. But this is enough for now.
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