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gnateye:

--- Quote from: saint on February 02, 2010, 10:12:56 am ---Oh, and any adult who spanks my child had better be bigger and badder than me because I'm coming after them.

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+1 to that saint!

Loafmeister:
Shmokes: Wow man, I don't blame you. I hope you saw them this morning and mentioned this is not acceptable.  Don't accept a "the Director is busy at the moment" BS, demand to see them right away.

shmokes:

--- Quote from: Hoopz on February 02, 2010, 10:27:15 am ---shmokes, did you find any info about pre-schools though?

I doubt it's easy to find if it's out there at all.   :dunno

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I couldn't really find any info specific to preschools.  This seems odd to me, because regardless of your overall position on the matter I think there are pretty strong arguments for treating preschools differently from primary schools (not the least of which the amount of training required for workers in preschools).  The state of the law seems to be that absent laws prohibiting it, corporal punishment is allowed.  And I couldn't find any laws specific to preschools.  There could be rules, though, from a regulatory agency that I missed.  The sources I looked through were primarily statutes, cases, legal encyclopedias and law review articles.  The latter two would be pretty likely to pick up regulations, though, so I kinda think they're not there, unfortunately.

Also, I did talk to the director this morning and she handled it very well.  She took it very seriously and assured us that any form of corporal punishment is absolutely not tolerated there and she said she would discuss it with the teacher.  She also made an effort to make sure we understood the possibility that Maddy could be lying or may have been cranky/drama-queen and when the teacher just patted her along she decided to throw a temper tantrum saying that she was spanked.  I already had this same concern, of course.  Anyway, I feel good about it.

ChadTower:
All I can speak about here is MA but here there are various levels of "preschool worker".  There are teaching assistants, teachers, lead teachers, etc.  By the time you get to teacher the person has to have a bachelor's degree and a state certification - not much different than the requirements to teach as far as high school.  The assistants have to have much less formal education, an Associate's will do I think, but they also can't be alone with kids by law or ever in charge in a room.

EDIT:  just asked the wife, lead teacher is supposed to be "bachelor + certification + several years as teacher".

Hoopz:

--- Quote from: shmokes on February 02, 2010, 02:33:01 pm ---She also made an effort to make sure we understood the possibility that Maddy could be lying or may have been cranky/drama-queen and when the teacher just patted her along she decided to throw a temper tantrum saying that she was spanked.  I already had this same concern, of course.  Anyway, I feel good about it.

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One thing that I always try and do when I speak with one of my kids' teachers is to emphasize that I'd like their perspective on _______ (what happened, what he/she said, or whatever) and I always explain that I know kids have a different take on things than adults do.  It sounds like you handled it well, but a lot of times parents say something or ask a question and the teachers automatically get defensive.  

Glad you feel better about it.   :applaud:

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