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ChadTower:

Early daycare/preschool is so hard to be comfortable with.  It really is.  There are so many more mediocre facilities than good ones it isn't even funny.  There are some really, really crappy ones, too.  Sadly there is always a place for crappy daycare so long as it's cheap and can manage to stay licensed.  There is a home daycare operator near my house that has a rottweiler in the house.  I can't even imagine leaving my kids there now (8 and 10) nevermind as toddlers.

I have no idea how my wife does her job.  Some of the stories she tells about the parents and there is a new one every day...

shmokes:
After we had decided to switch her to her current daycare, she hadn't been to the old one in about three weeks (so she'd already had her last day there) and then we drove over there to retrieve her immunization forms and whatnot to give to her new  daycare.  The three of us were all driving in the car like normal and then when we pulled up to her old daycare Maddy just started sobbing.  Not crying, but heartbreaking uncontrollable sobs.  It really wasn't a good place.  And whenever we picked her up her face and hair were a mess.  They just weren't getting attention and weren't nice.  I really kick myself for leaving her there so long.  What I initially dismissed as my own paranoia was, on hindsight, really really obvious signs that I should have taken her out of there.  For the most part I think I'm an excellent parent and that I typically have really good instincts for how to handle things, in spite of it being my first time.  But that was a total fail on my part.

Anyway, I talked to the director this morning.  She was great and handled it perfectly.  Also, I double-checked our contract and their official policy is no corporal punishment, so that makes me happy.  It hadn't even occurred to me that corporal punishment at school is still legal in the US, but I researched it last night and found Florida's laws and, sure enough, Vanguard is right.  In fact, it's only illegal in about half of states.  That's just public schools, too.  Only two states have outlawed it in private schools (though private schools almost unanimously oppose it apparently).  It really surprises me.  I thought the VAST majority of people were against it.  Not necessarily against spanking in general, but against somebody else spanking their kid.  Shrug.

By the way, the US is the only country in the western world where corporal punishment is allowed in public schools.

ChadTower:

It would be interesting to see a breakdown of which states still allow vs which have made it illegal.

shmokes:
Viola

saint:

--- Quote from: shmokes on February 02, 2010, 09:18:26 am ---After we had decided to switch her to her current daycare, she hadn't been to the old one in about three weeks (so she'd already had her last day there) and then we drove over there to retrieve her immunization forms and whatnot to give to her new  daycare.  The three of us were all driving in the car like normal and then when we pulled up to her old daycare Maddy just started sobbing.  Not crying, but heartbreaking uncontrollable sobs.  It really wasn't a good place.  And whenever we picked her up her face and hair were a mess.  They just weren't getting attention and weren't nice.  I really kick myself for leaving her there so long.  What I initially dismissed as my own paranoia was, on hindsight, really really obvious signs that I should have taken her out of there.  For the most part I think I'm an excellent parent and that I typically have really good instincts for how to handle things, in spite of it being my first time.  But that was a total fail on my part.

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The exact same thing happened to us with our first child. She was 2, we had just moved to a new state, and I had her in daycare near where I worked. She cried every day when we dropped her off. I was about ready to quit work. Ended up switching to paying my wife's sister to watch her instead, and it was a night and day difference.

Prior to this we had her in daycare in the state we had lived in, and there was never a problem. She absolutely adored (and was adored by) the woman who was her primary care giver at the day care.

Difference between the two was the first day care had older women (40's) and small numbers. New daycare had young girls (teens(?) to early 20's) and lots of kids.

I regret how long it took for us to realize something was wrong.

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