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jamesjones626:
F that S!

Ond:
But can you make calls from it? or take photos (needs a camera connection kit)? no? bahhh useless!  :P

shmokes:
Actually, that's what kills me about no camera.  It just makes no sense at all.  If you can fit a camera into the iPhone, you can fit one into the iPad.  This thing would be so great for Skype (or iChat if you're an Apple fanatic).  It's obviously not an oversight.  This was discussed and they decided not to put in a camera.  It's retarded, but it's definitely deliberate.  It also lacks any I/M client software.  

The only reason I can come up with is that they're afraid that any real-time communication capability this thing has will cause it to cannibalize iPhone sales.

RayB:
So far, all I'm hearing all over the place are people picking out one feature that this doesn't have and tearing it apart based on that. So strange.  No camera! Ipod Touch doesn't, yet it sold huge numbers last christmas. Why? Why didn't people get Iphone instead? Or hey, an ipod is for MUSIC, what's all this extra crap worth paying $300-$400 for? Yet it sold.

I guess you gotta try it to "know" this will do well. Until 6 months ago I never even owned an Apple product *ever*, but never have I enjoyed and gotten so much use out of a "gadget" as I have the Touch. I barely even use it for music. LOL

The pundits even had an effect on Apple stock, knocking it down $6. I am reminded of the pre-Wii naysayers.  It's probably a good time to buy Apple stock.

shmokes:
That's just religion speaking, RayB.  The iPod Touch has much less demand for a camera than the iPhone.  And while I'm calling for a camera on the iPad, I don't mean in the way the iPhone has a camera, I mean the way a laptop typically has a camera.  I'm talking about a webcam, not a camera for taking digital stills.

But Apple is not immune from creating flops, and they are not immune from creating devices that could be great, but important missing features hamper their success.  Please see Apple TV.

The case your making about people speaking out against the iPod touch is simply made up.  There is no confusion over why people bought the iPod touch.  There never was.  The iPhone was an enormous success, universally loved by almost everyone who used it, especially iPod users.  The obvious answer to the question, "Why didn't people get an iPhone instead," is simply that they didn't want or need the phone feature and preferred to save a substantial amount of money, both on the cost of the device, as well as on not having a $30 monthly data plan.  The case for the iPod touch is beyond obvious.  People were clambering for it as soon as the iPhone was released.  The case for the iPad is much less so.

I'm not saying the device will not be a success.  But it is certainly not the guaranteed success you make it out to be.  And your willingness to give Apple a pass on clear failures just paints you as a fanboy.  For crying out loud, you've got a tablet with a web browser incapable of displaying 95% of the streaming video on the web.  In what world is that okay?  It can't multitask.  This isn't SO important on the iPhone or iPod touch cos those devices are limited by their very nature (i.e., small size).  But this tablet comes with a brand new, custom-tailored iWork and it has a full-size keyboard dock.  It is meant to be a laptop replacement for the casual user.  But you cannot listen to music from Pandora while you work.  One app at a time, my friend.  And, again, who are they aiming this tablet at?  Why no camera?  The very people who would buy something like this are the very people who would want to utilize it for iChat and so on.  

These things matter.  You can't just say, "Look at the iPhone.  It's great, so this will be too."  Look at Windows XP.  It was great.  What did that mean for Vista?  Look at Vista.  It was crap.  Did that mean that Windows 7 was bound to be crap?  I guess what I'm saying, is take a step back.  Have some perspective.  Instead of just blindly swallowing what you are fed you might say, "You know what?  This has potential.  But Apple left off features that I consider critical.  I think I will wait until they get it right."  Remember Ray, yesterday you didn't even know what an iPad was.  You'll be okay going one more year without one.  

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