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MAME could become obsolete
SavannahLion:
Well... what I meant by "Windows" boxes is the standard Windows install by a home user. I realize X2 runs a stripped and/or modified Windows, but it's an install configuration one would most likely not find on your standard.
OK, so I did a little more reading on some... less than respectable sites about it. I'd be a little hard pressed to say this would replace MAME. MAME serves an entirely different role and in all likelyhood become more like some variation-hybrid-offshoot-bastard-cousin of WINE. MAME's goal is to emulate the full hardware of the board. This is more like a thin layer to run the game. Entirely different animals.
In any case, it looks like a pretty cool game. Not really my type of thing though.
DJ_Izumi:
--- Quote from: SavannahLion on January 24, 2010, 02:41:07 am ---Well... what I meant by "Windows" boxes is the standard Windows install by a home user. I realize X2 runs a stripped and/or modified Windows, but it's an install configuration one would most likely not find on your standard.
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It seems that in the case of Win XPe, it's more that XPe has everything that XP has, it's just that XP has a hell of a lot more. The game seems to run just fine even in Vista which a friend of mine is using it in. I havn't tried it myself because my PC is an Athlon 64 3200 and isn't remotely comparable to the Type X2.
--- Quote from: SavannahLion on January 24, 2010, 02:41:07 am ---OK, so I did a little more reading on some... less than respectable sites about it. I'd be a little hard pressed to say this would replace MAME. MAME serves an entirely different role and in all likelyhood become more like some variation-hybrid-offshoot-bastard-cousin of WINE. MAME's goal is to emulate the full hardware of the board. This is more like a thin layer to run the game. Entirely different animals.
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Today a Windows PC is the 'full hardware' of the board. It's not cost effective to do elaborate propriatary hardware when you can just throw off the shelf PC parts in a custom motherboard at it. MAME's technique would be absurdly difficult to apply to modern hardware, heck it's a huge issue with a lot of old 3D games already. To imagine a modern dual core advanced graphics PC game, then attempt to emulate one hardware platform on it entirely in a CPU. The hardware requirements would be astronomical, especially when the graphics cards are so specially designed for that kinda graphics math and CPU is a general purpose machine. I think the majority of devs looking at Windows code that would just execute in Windows will just go 'Let's make it work in windows'.
Of course by in 10-20 years, the current Windows based platforms these games are running in could be so obsolete it wouldn't be practical to put those operating systems on a modern system. Maybe we'll see a Windows XPe emulator akin to 'DosBox'. 'WinBox' anyone? :)
danny_galaga:
Good news. Maybe soon the MAME dev team can just concentrate on getting each classic game right, one at a time. Instead of a million changes over a decade or so. I suggest they start at the beginning, and work their way, in order to the end ;)
SavannahLion:
Oi. Forget it.
DJ_Izumi:
--- Quote from: danny_galaga on January 24, 2010, 03:25:44 am ---
Good news. Maybe soon the MAME dev team can just concentrate on getting each classic game right, one at a time. Instead of a million changes over a decade or so. I suggest they start at the beginning, and work their way, in order to the end ;)
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The MAME devs certianly have their work cut out for them with the games ranging more or less from 1995-2005. Of course some work and some don't, depends on what's been focused on but that seems to be the era where MAME starts becoming really ineffective. Of course that is a lot of complicated and powerful hardware they are trying to emulate.