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RayB:
Interesting that the backlog includes the FIRST SHIPMENT EVER.
This is pure laziness. Real life or not. Sorry but when someone paid hundreds of dollars for something, THAT IS PART OF YOUR "REAL LIFE" buddy.
Pay someone minimum wage for half a day to pack up all the orders. Geez.
Get the wife or girlfriend to do it. Anybody.
TPB:
The yoke will be a masterpiece, once it really does start shipping. It'll be a thing of such beauty, that the focus shall turn to the brilliance of the yoke, and anyone who dared question Dave's methods shall be royally flamed.
Nonetheless ...
It's interesting to observe the similarities between Dave, and Andy from Ultimarc.
Both have a professional website to promote their gaming business.
Both run their gaming business for the love of it, as a hobby ... they do other work to help pay the bills :
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You might be wondering why, having made these statements, Ultimarc continues to exist as even the I-PAC is a niche product selling at a low margin. Its not an easy ride, especially as we have competition who are even more price-focused than we are. (dry your eyes now hehe).
If I were to go on Dragons Den and present the I-PAC as a business, Peter Jones would just laugh when I state the margin and projected sales.
But fortunately thats only part of the story. Keeping overheads down to the bare minimum and also being involved in consultancy and design for other companies makes things viable.
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Both have just released a new product. With Andy, it's the AimTrak.
That's where the similarity ends.
Imagine if Andy said the AimTrak was done and shipping, then offered BYOAC and KLOV purchase specials, then takes receipt of a heap of order cash, and then disappears for a month, with nothing being shipped ? Finally he reappears, and his best excuse for not shipping the AimTraks is real life taking a front seat ?
Would we ever see this from Andy ? Maybe our lovable Brit is just one of a kind.
RandyT:
--- Quote from: z on January 26, 2010, 05:01:53 pm ---These have been delayed long enough I wonder if the day Ram Controls ships the first few yokes will be the same day that Ultimarc or Groovy Game Gear debut their composite based model on the scene for significantly cheaper. I realize the overall market volume may not be there to justify the development costs but I'm wondering if Andy or Randy have ever looked at these.
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Heh. I already have a rough design in mind for something similar, but at this moment in time, I can't imagine finding the time to pursue it. But it would be simpler, smaller and, in the long run, more reliable on the electronics side. In appearance, however, not nearly as "authentic".
And far be it for me to speak for Dave, but it would not surprise me at all, even after all of the parts are in hand and sitting there in front of you, that these would take well over an hour each to assemble and test. Considering the cost and quantity of the components, unless you have an assembly line of underpaid workers, it's going to be really difficult to make any money on these, once labor and all of the time already spent on the project are considered. In the end, if one has a choice between doing something that brings money in the door (you know, for things like food, heat, electricity, etc.) or something that essentially is a break even proposition, that first thing is probably going to take precedent. That may or may not be what's going on here, but it's a possibility. I won't comment on taking cash on the project and not shipping after stating that he is. He's going to have to defend that one, and whether he can to anyone's satisfaction will be between him and them. Obviously, the parts are there. Maybe now it's really hard to find the time to actually make the completed units and get them out the door.
RandyT
ChadTower:
Of course, we all understand that, Randy. It's the lies followed by silence that are the problem. Nothing in your good faith example includes lying about shipments having been made.
ratzz:
You know the bit that sticks in my throat:
Dave's post on Klov:
--- Quote ---Keep on gaming!!!
Dave
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