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Cakemeister:
You can explain unobtainium as an alloy of rare earth elements that superconducts at room temperatures. You could do a lot with that. Lossless transmission lines, cheap magnetic levitation, and so on. Existing high temperature superconductors are such alloys. Not too much of a stretch there. It's easier to call something unobtainium than "yttrium-praesodymium-niobium" or some such.

But I agree with most of what Shmokes said regarding characters and plot.

shmokes:

--- Quote from: Loafmeister on January 07, 2010, 04:54:19 pm ---
Cameron was trying to make a movie that's more of a spectacle, not just great intellectual cinema. 


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I just don't see how bad storytelling can be simply dismissed as, "That's not what the director was going for."  I would hardly call Iron Man great intellectual cinema.  The difference between Iron Man and Avatar is that one is good and the other isn't. 

Take Wedding Crashers vs. Little Nicky.  You could watch either one of them and say, "The director was trying to make a screwball movie to make people laugh, not just great intellectual cinema."  And you would be right in either case.  But that isn't what makes a movie good.  There are good screwball comedies and there are bad screwball comedies.  There are good spectacle movies and there are bad spectacle movies.  There is good intellectual cinema and there is bad intellectual cinema.  My complaint with Avatar has nothing to do with how you want to categorize it.  I don't care whether it's a spectacle movie or intellectual cinema.  I just wanted it to be good.  It wasn't.

drventure:

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From the Wiki, I liked "wishalloy"  :)

AtomSmasher:

--- Quote from: RayB on January 07, 2010, 02:30:43 pm ---@Shmokes: Agree with ya on the mineral name. I thought Wolverine's "admantium" was dumb, but this was dumber. One step away from calling it "rare-ium", or "hard-to-getium"


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I assumed they were trying to get the name to sound similar to, but not quite the same as, Upsidasium, which is seems to be where the minerals properties was copied from.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upsidaisium

Loafmeister:

--- Quote from: shmokes on January 08, 2010, 10:58:55 am ---
--- Quote from: Loafmeister on January 07, 2010, 04:54:19 pm ---
Cameron was trying to make a movie that's more of a spectacle, not just great intellectual cinema.  


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I just don't see how bad storytelling can be simply dismissed as, "That's not what the director was going for."  I would hardly call Iron Man great intellectual cinema.  The difference between Iron Man and Avatar is that one is good and the other isn't.  


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Because for many people, it obviously isn't bad storytelling.  That's ok, though I'm not sure why you seem to be assuming that I am or anyone who enjoys the movie, is forgiving bad storytelling.  I liked the story and with the exception of one or two lines, I liked most of the script.  Sometimes, there are no explanation beyond taste in movies and expectations.  Not one movie gets 100% approval, right?

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