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| jukingeo:
--- Quote from: Kevin Mullins on December 02, 2009, 11:10:31 pm ---Well, if it's like an Asteroids Deluxe the "mirrored" side would face you. (really hard to tell the mirrored side, but there is a difference) --- End quote --- Ahhh, Asteroids Deluxe....yes, that would be another one that would work the same way. --- Quote ---And ad far as "how"...... we'll have to visualize here. Draw a square. Now draw a diagonal line through it from top right to bottom left. Artwork would be on the left side facing the right. Monitor would be on the bottom facing up towards the mirrored side of the glass. What the exact angle is, I'm not sure. But that's the concept anyways. --- End quote --- Yeah, I had an idea of the concept myself because I have worked on mirrored cabinets before, such as Pac-Man. But those cabinets were a full mirror. The element I am missing is how the backdrop is laid out and the EXACT measurements for the angles. Like I said in my OP it would have been great to see pictures of the interior of Space Invaders so I could see for myself, that is why I originally put this post in the restoration section because that is the kind of person that could help me best. BUT, one of the moderators decided to move my post here. Naturally I am not too happy about that. But to anyone that is reading this it does appear that Asteroids Deluxe also has the same kind of mirrored set up, so if you have an Asteroids Deluxe that you can take pictures of to help me out, that will do fine. Now that I recall, I believe Space Invaders Deluxe also had the mirror / back drop of it's original cousin. Thanx, Geo |
| cosam:
--- Quote from: jukingeo on December 03, 2009, 07:57:42 am ---Like I said in my OP it would have been great to see pictures of the interior of Space Invaders so I could see for myself... --- End quote --- If you have the patience (this is one long page with lots of photos) have a look here for the deluxe version. |
| jukingeo:
--- Quote from: cosam on December 03, 2009, 09:59:26 am --- If you have the patience (this is one long page with lots of photos) have a look here for the deluxe version. --- End quote --- Hello Cosam, Thanx a bunch for the link to the pictures. However, after looking at them, I now have more questions than answers. For starters, do you still have the machine? Would it be possible to to take 'layered' pictures? In other words, remove the front bezel to show the mirror, then remove the mirror to show the positioning of the backdrop? How does the bluish half-round piece go? In your pictures it looks like it is very well towards the back of the cabinet. But what I was curious about is if it is in front of, or behind the black light. Stuff like that has me a bit confused. Finally, the angles of the monitor v.s. the glass do look weird, but yet are similar to other angled mirror cabinets I have seen. Supposedly the mirror/monitor are not on even angles. The monitor actually faces the rear of the cabinet more than straight up. That is understandable as you don't want the player to see any of the monitor on the bottom there. Thus now to maintain the proper reflection angle, I would assume that the mirror is sitting at a 45 degree angle to the monitor tube. Next is the issue of the silvered side of the two way mirror. Does the silvered side face the front of the cabinet (I am assuming so), or the rear. Stuff like that, Thanx for the info, Geo |
| cosam:
--- Quote from: jukingeo on December 03, 2009, 11:30:03 am ---Thanx a bunch for the link to the pictures. However, after looking at them, I now have more questions than answers. For starters, do you still have the machine? --- End quote --- Sorry, it's not my cab, just something I came across on the web. Maybe you can find some contact details on the site somewhere. --- Quote ---Finally, the angles of the monitor v.s. the glass do look weird, but yet are similar to other angled mirror cabinets I have seen. Supposedly the mirror/monitor are not on even angles. The monitor actually faces the rear of the cabinet more than straight up. That is understandable as you don't want the player to see any of the monitor on the bottom there. Thus now to maintain the proper reflection angle, I would assume that the mirror is sitting at a 45 degree angle to the monitor tube. --- End quote --- I don't think there's any reason it'd have to be 45 degrees. All you need to do is make sure the monitor is reflected somewhere in the field of view of the player. If I were building it, I'd either make a mock-up and experiment, or make the end product adjustable (at least the angle of the mirror, if not the monitor too). --- Quote ---Next is the issue of the silvered side of the two way mirror. Does the silvered side face the front of the cabinet (I am assuming so), or the rear. --- End quote --- I'm no expert on the subject, but I'd have thought the silvered side would be away from the viewer, just as it is on a regular mirror. It wouldn't exactly be rocket surgery to try both ways and see which looks best ;-) |
| Silas (son of Silas):
--- Quote from: cosam on December 03, 2009, 09:59:26 am --- --- Quote from: jukingeo on December 03, 2009, 07:57:42 am ---Like I said in my OP it would have been great to see pictures of the interior of Space Invaders so I could see for myself... --- End quote --- If you have the patience (this is one long page with lots of photos) have a look here for the deluxe version. --- End quote --- Thanks for that link cosam, that site has some really interesting resto pics. |
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