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*Ping* Dave - RAM Controls
shardian:
I think I have mentioned this before, and I'll mention it again. Dave, at this point you HAVE to have at least one completed yoke. Even if it is hand crimped and wired, so be it. You simply JUST HAVE TO HAVE ONE COMPLETED SAMPLE PRODUCT!
Take that sample, snap a few pics, take a bit of video, and post it. You should have done this months ago. That's really what the nay-sayers want.
You are right, if you wouldn't have set dates, then the "It's a scam" naysayers with nothing better to do would have been dancing in the field well away from the woodwork. A simple working sample would have deterred them all.
Secondly, send a sample to a well known reliable tester. Either Retroblast or someone affiliated with Gameroom magazine. I guarantee you that you would get a VERY LARGE article spread in that magazine - probably the cover too.
Havok:
I for one am satisfied to wait for a perfect completed product. Honestly, at this point, one more month means nothing considering how long I have already been waiting. Just hoping that Dave can complete and ship before Christmas.
Dave - let me know if you need any help testing with Mame since I pre-ordered the yoke and controller...
TheShanMan:
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Potential customers don't count now? Not a very smart business frame of mind IMHO.
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I would lump together pre-order customers and those who want to order once the product is shipping. I haven't seen the complainers state that they are interested in buying, but I certainly could have missed that. You aren't thinking of buying one though, are you?
Ideally pre-orders should be acceptable because it's a nice way to let those who are willing to wait get the product at a reduced price, but it seems that the only way to prevent people from complaining about delays is to eliminate pre-orders. It's sad actually because I'm not even sure that the pre-order folks have even complained, but what can you do? Apparently it's just not worth it. So my reluctant vote (if anyone even cares) would be for no pre-orders.
Cakemeister:
This whole thing reminds me of the Big Bang Bar pinball story. The guy takes preorders and then takes years to create the final product. Cost overruns and production snags aplenty. Eventually there is a happy ending and the machines are produced.
People should not forget that the yokes are not Dave's only product.
Also, I respectfully disagree with TheShanMan's opinion that preorders should be eliminated. In some cases preorders are the only to gauge interest in a product. The market for these yokes obviously is limited to SW console owners and hobbyists. If Dave blindly produced a yoke and there proved to be no market for it then Dave would be out many thousands of dollars. And you can't count "Hey I'd buy one" as market interest.
But I do agree that Dave should have produced at least one prototype, just to prevent possible manufacturing snags.
Deadly:
This community is wishy washy at best. It's sad (for one instance) that you have the bigger players such as Quarterarcade and Phoenix arcade not willing to step in and try doing a run of particular artwork because "as mentioned above I'LL TAKE ONE" is almost BS everytime. So taking pre-orders ...... in order to secure my investment I sure as hell would and I think a person would be foolish not to. Notice I said "I think" which doesn;t mean that's the law - it's an opinion only.
C'mon guys - let's all be friends again and sit down with a pint! :cheers: