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MaximRecoil:

--- Quote from: ChadTower on November 24, 2009, 03:50:14 pm ---We have a fundamental disagreement when you say that the only area that counts is money.

Again it comes down to accountability.  Accountability to his word is just as important as accountability to a dollar if he is a business.
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But how could that be anyone's problem but his own? If people don't believe a word he says, then his business may suffer, but that is his business. The only thing that matters with regard to having a legitimate complaint against him is money. As long as no one is being screwed out of money, then no one has a legitimate complaint against him.
MaximRecoil:

--- Quote from: FrizzleFried on November 24, 2009, 04:31:31 pm ---Just to be clear - I've never said Dave wasn't a good guy... on the contrary... I've said he seems like one of the nicest guys around.
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However, saying he is a nice guy is at odds with referring to his actions as "douchebaggery", his statements as "BS", and his products as "crap" in the same post:


--- Quote from: FrizzleFried on November 22, 2009, 06:40:30 pm ---But whatever... as long as the guy keeps handing out free crap,  people will come to his defense.   I'm the bad guy for pointing out his douchebaggery... but that's OK... I've been the bad guy before... I am used to it.

Now don't get me wrong... Dave seems like the nicest guy in the world... but that and a buck will buy you a double cheeseburger at Micky-D's.

Go back through the guys statements on this project and you'll find more BS than I care to recant.
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Namco:

--- Quote from: MaximRecoil on November 24, 2009, 04:44:14 pm ---
--- Quote from: FrizzleFried on November 24, 2009, 04:31:31 pm ---Just to be clear - I've never said Dave wasn't a good guy... on the contrary... I've said he seems like one of the nicest guys around.
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However, saying he is a nice guy is at odds with referring to his actions as "douchebaggery", his statements as "BS", and his products as "crap" in the same post:


--- Quote from: FrizzleFried on November 22, 2009, 06:40:30 pm ---But whatever... as long as the guy keeps handing out free crap,  people will come to his defense.   I'm the bad guy for pointing out his douchebaggery... but that's OK... I've been the bad guy before... I am used to it.

Now don't get me wrong... Dave seems like the nicest guy in the world... but that and a buck will buy you a double cheeseburger at Micky-D's.

Go back through the guys statements on this project and you'll find more BS than I care to recant.
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Don't worry MaximRecoil, Frizz will just recant those statements.  ;D
ChadTower:

--- Quote from: MaximRecoil on November 24, 2009, 04:37:30 pm ---But how could that be anyone's problem but his own? If people don't believe a word he says, then his business may suffer, but that is his business. The only thing that matters with regard to having a legitimate complaint against him is money. As long as no one is being screwed out of money, then no one has a legitimate complaint against him.

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Opportunity Cost is a very legitimate business complaint.  In this scenario that has to be modified to more of a Hobby Opportunity Cost rather than monetary but it still does apply.  Broken promises do damage to both parties.
CheffoJeffo:
Is the world coming to an end ? saint, maxim, xiaou and I are on the same side of an argument and Chad and Frizz are on the other side ?

In any aspect of this hobby, when you rely on somebody else, you are taking your chances on being disappointed and having timelines extended.

Everybody has a story about having a game or PCB sitting in somebody else's shop waiting for repair ... in some cases for as long as David is "overdue" with his projects. And, in those cases, the other person actually has possession of your property.

Which is worse ?  :dunno

I'm not one for signing up for pre-orders, but there are a few folks that I would send deposits / pre-order money to and David would be included in that list (if any of his projects intersected with mine).

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