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ChadTower:

--- Quote from: saint on November 24, 2009, 04:03:10 pm ---Meh Chad. Three things concern me when doing business with vendors in this hobby.

1. Are they new or do they have a history? Dave has a history of making and selling products.
2. Have they ripped anyone off? Answer here is no as far as I know.
3. Is their product shoddy? No, quite the contrary as far as I understand.

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If he stops taking preorders the whole conversation goes bye-bye.  It only pops up because he keeps taking preorders with definite completion dates.  That moves the whole process away from those black and white questions and into the area of basic integrity.  My personal opinion is that his intentions are good but his actions border on those of a scammer way too closely for comfort.  Take away that aspect of it, the appearance of purchases without delivery, and nobody has any problem with RAM Controls.
CheffoJeffo:

--- Quote from: saint on November 24, 2009, 04:03:10 pm ---Meh Chad. Three things concern me when doing business with vendors in this hobby.

1. Are they new or do they have a history? Dave has a history of making and selling products.
2. Have they ripped anyone off? Answer here is no as far as I know.
3. Is their product shoddy? No, quite the contrary as far as I understand.

--- End quote ---

+1

I consider Frizz a friend and, like TheShanMan, disagree with him regarding David. I am a fan and like a lot of the stuff that David has done (including the giveaways, even though I haven't been able to capitalize), although he definitely painted a big, bright bullseye on his back with the latest "dropdead deadline".

I also disagree with David and Xiaou's assessment of Frizz -- he's a good guy and I am totally grateful to him for spearheading the "High Speed for Ken" initiatives (if you can't see how getting Ken decent Net access is good for the hobby, then you are missing something important).

 :cheers:
saint:

--- Quote from: CheffoJeffo on November 24, 2009, 04:22:02 pm ---I also disagree with David and Xiaou's assessment of Frizz -- he's a good guy and I am totally grateful to him for spearheading the "High Speed for Ken" initiatives (if you can't see how getting Ken decent Net access is good for the hobby, then you are missing something important).

 :cheers:

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+1.

Actually, David, Xiaou2, and Frizz have all contributed to the hobby.
ChadTower:

--- Quote from: CheffoJeffo on November 24, 2009, 04:22:02 pm ---...he definitely painted a big, bright bullseye on his back with the latest "dropdead deadline".

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Multiple dropped deadlines.  One of them on a new product with new preorders.  You guys keep glossing over the fact that the behavior is not just continuing.  It is expanding.

To his credit, I PMed him today saying I would like the bundled roller controller shipped now vs when the MH CP becomes available as an act of faith.  He replied within a couple of hours with a tracking number.  The guy is clearly not a scammer.  I just wish he'd stop making himself look like one.


FrizzleFried:
Just to be clear - I've never said Dave wasn't a good guy... on the contrary... I've said he seems like one of the nicest guys around.


EDIT: Also... Dave and I exchanged a number of PM's a few months ago... where I agreed to get off his back until October 30th... and I did (didn't I Dave?).   I also told him at the time that if 10/30 came and went,  I'd be jumping his ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---,  at which time he agreed that it would be warranted (didn't you Dave?)...


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