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*Ping* Dave - RAM Controls
CheffoJeffo:
I could have sworn that I actually saw udders as a control device on a machine, but I'll be damned if I am going to search for it.
Back to the issue at hand though ... I think that both you and I agree that Dave is not a scammer. If we can agree on that, then perhaps we can agree that he provides a service to the community. If we can agree on that, then perhaps we can agree that, as a community, we should be grateful for that.
Here is where we have the problem ... you're happy to jump on Dave for missing deadlines and letting the whole project go on for as long as he had.
How does your holding his feet to the fire help resolve that or, perhaps more importantly, encourage him to keep working on repro projects ?
I get that his talk about deadlines has prompted your actions -- hell, he practically invited you to do so.
My question is -- how are you helping anybody in the hobby by calling him out ?
And, if you aren't, then why bother in the first place ?
FrizzleFried:
--- Quote from: CheffoJeffo on November 26, 2009, 04:05:43 pm ---I could have sworn that I actually saw udders as a control device on a machine, but I'll be damned if I am going to search for it.
Back to the issue at hand though ... I think that both you and I agree that Dave is not a scammer. If we can agree on that, then perhaps we can agree that he provides a service to the community. If we can agree on that, then perhaps we can agree that, as a community, we should be grateful for that.
Here is where we have the problem ... you're happy to jump on Dave for missing deadlines and letting the whole project go on for as long as he had.
How does your holding his feet to the fire help resolve that or, perhaps more importantly, encourage him to keep working on repro projects ?
I get that his talk about deadlines has prompted your actions -- hell, he practically invited you to do so.
My question is -- how are you helping anybody in the hobby by calling him out ?
And, if you aren't, then why bother in the first place ?
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I've not commented on the yoke situation since I said I was done. I simply responded to folks saying this is a secondary "hobby" business for him, which it certainly may be... but that's not how he portrays his business on his website. If you visit his site, it's portrayed as a 1st tier "main" business with multiple employees located in a rather nice sized warehouse location... certainly not a secondary "side" business run out of his house or some storage facility somewhere. I mean that facility pictured on his site has to cost some pretty decent dough... and employees earn a paycheck. I assume these are the same employees that are wiring up the yokes... getting hand cramps, etc...
Right?
CheffoJeffo:
--- Quote from: FrizzleFried on November 26, 2009, 04:28:58 pm ---I've not commented on the yoke situation since I said I was done. I simply responded to folks saying this is a secondary "hobby" business for him, which it certainly may be... but that's not how he portrays his business on his website. If you visit his site, it's portrayed as a 1st tier "main" business with multiple employees located in a rather nice sized warehouse location... certainly not a secondary "side" business run out of his house or some storage facility somewhere.
That is all.
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OK, I get it.
You know, prOk's site looks like a 1st tier main business as well -- oi, prOk, where is my damned Cheyenne artwork ? It's been a damned year already. Oh wait, was I actually planning to create my own MultiExidy art instead of restoring Cheyenne using original art ? What, you expect me to be a paying customer before I jump around the boards and ---smurfette--- ? Oh, the inhumanity! [/sarcasm]
Come on Frizz, you and I both know what these guys go through ... your defense sounds a lot like the defense of folks who pick on Jeff about D2K -- just because you think you have a reason doesn't mean it is a good thing to do.
Don't try and play ignorant or somebody will step up and take advantage.
FrizzleFried:
PMs sent... I'd rather take this discussion private rather than to ---meecrob--- up this already douchetastic thread.
:cheers:
CheffoJeffo:
--- Quote from: FrizzleFried on November 26, 2009, 04:53:44 pm ---PMs sent... I'd rather take this discussion private rather than to ---meecrob--- up this already douchetastic thread.
:cheers:
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Hey, it's not like I started this douchetastic thread ... you're just an amateur ... threads *I* start usually end up in PH.
:cheers:
;D