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ChadTower:
--- Quote from: SavannahLion on November 01, 2009, 08:37:11 pm ---I had this nice long post and the cat hit the keyboard. :banghead:
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You pussied out.
shmokes:
--- Quote from: Grasshopper on November 01, 2009, 02:48:56 pm ---Shmokes, I don't know where you're getting this idea that learning martial arts somehow prevents a kid from learning and potentially being good at football, basketball etc.
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Of course, it doesn't technically prevent it. That is just the reality more often than not. I think that most parents who put their kids in martial arts (Chad notwithstanding) are not interested in, or don't have the time/resources to, put their kid in a wide range of sports. Moreover, they are often not putting their kids in martial arts to learn to play well with others, but rather to learn how to physically defend themselves from others.
And in fact the skills you learn in martial arts are not nearly as transferable to other sports than those learned in mainstream sports. Videogames develop eye-hand coordination. If you took your kid to work all summer and had him moving bricks or hauling sandbags around, and then he came home and played videogames every night, he would get lean and strong and he might have great eye-hand coordination. But he's not going to walk out on a baseball field and be a natural because of it. Of course every little bit helps, but when your kids are playing soccer or baseball, learning to play together, handling balls, stop-and-go running, having an inner sense of the physics of ball movement, i.e., how far it will go when thrown/kicked/hit -- and especially how to adjust for things like making the ball reach the same destination in an arc rather than a line. Many of these skills are highly transferable from one game to another.
Obviously martial arts training builds muscle, flexibility and coordination, but so do all those other sports. And, as Chad I'm sure will agree, sports do not cease to be important once you are an adult. Many adults continue playing sports. I'm only 31, but I think that counts as adult and I play sports with my friends regularly (mostly tennis and soccer now, but I often played football too up until a few years ago).
BTW, Xiaou, you are now as graceful as a cat with arms like iron bars, but if you walk out on a basketball court or tennis court you're still nearly as awkward as ever, I imagine.
edit: clarity
shmokes:
--- Quote from: ChadTower on November 01, 2009, 09:35:03 pm ---
You pussied out.
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Somebody throw a tomato at this guy. :)
Xiaou2:
--- Quote ---That's nice, but you still sleep alone.
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Ive been with my fair share of beauties. Maybe I didnt marry... but I could be in
another relationship, if I chose it. Unlike you, I dont have to expend efforts hiding
how much of an A** I am.
And Shmokes, Sorry... but you are way out off base with your Assumptions.
It takes a lot more physical ability to a martial art like Wing Chun than it does to
play tennis, or swing a baseball bat. In many sports, you build specific muscle sets,
and abilities. In the arts, you have to build all muscle sets.
- Flexibility
- Speed
- Power
- Balance / Accurate Weight placement & recovery
- Sensitivity
- Fast coordination
- Equal Accuracy / Power with all limbs
- Endurance
- No fear / Confidence
- No Pain (reduced pain levels, and willpower to fight past pains)
- Fluidity / Accurate Footwork & smooth movements
All of these are sought after goals in a sport. AND, a sport is less useful in life
than learning a martial art.
ALSO, there is cooperation in the arts. While there still are the occasional punks,
there are people who help each other out - to better each others skills.
And, some of these bullies quickly learn the power of the individual, and realize
its best not to tempt fate by being a pushy jerk... least they get buried at an
early age.
And BTW - I can call out tons of instances where sport is Not about teamwork.. and
more about the individual. Probably more examples of this than all of the arts combined.
As for my sports performances "Now"... I would never say that I could go out there
and pick up a racket and challenge the worlds best. What I am saying... is that if
I compared my ability to do that with and without martial arts training... you would
see that my performance would be over 90% improvement between them.
Playing Basketball before... and I would have been tripping over my own feet.
It takes someone a lot of dedicated effort just to try to push me off balance now.
And being that you have to throw techniques down perfect lines... you develop
very steady paths. Such as in the example of my student getting better bowling scores,
because he can maintain straighter lines - for longer durations of time, even under stresses
of weight (ball) and circumstances.
There are instances where you must be able to sense energy going from one direction
quickly to the other... with a feathers touch. This could help a football player better stick to
his opposition, for example. And reading footwork and intent of attack... could help lead to
better ability to read direction and intent on faints, jukes..etc... And give better ability to
stop or counter the event.
Flexibility - Adds performance, as well as keeps an athlete (or normal lazy bum) from getting
injured easily.
Speed - In reaction, and intended actions, needs no explanation of its importance. These
quick-twitch muscle fibers are only developed when you train them specifically that way.
--- Quote ---physics of ball movement, i.e., how far it will go when thrown/kicked/hit -- and especially how to adjust for things like making the ball reach the same destination in an arc rather than a line. Many of these skills are highly transferable from one game to another.
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Ever pick up a pair of Nunchaka? Or even better.. The "Rope Dart" ? heh
You clearly do not understand the arts at all. Everything in the arts is about physics
and distances. You have to account for your distance to the target, the target moving,
the depths of impact, and what will happen should the target vastly move, or move in a
different direction.
There are straight lines, and hooking lines in kicks and punches. One has to account
for these as well, in: Throwing, intercepting, redirecting, evading, blocking..etc.
You also do not realize how much you deal with mass. When you hit someones head,
is completely different when you kick their chest. And even more different if they
are resisting, or if they didnt see it coming.
Being in full "Perfect" control of all your limbs... in Direction, Speed, Power, Braking...etc...
You gain better ability to do something like Shoot a basketball in the correct speed and
direction. From your experience with distances, you gain better insight into depth perceptions,
timing, distances, mass effects..etc.
shmokes:
"The arts" sound amazing, Xiaou. I take back everything I said. BTW, do you know the Five Point Palm Exploding Heart Technique? I would pay good money if you could teach me that.
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