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RayB:
yeah and you also have to include ghosts of dead animals over millions if not billions of years. There should have been sightings of dinosaur ghosts by now.

(the believers will ironically rationalize this with some bs explanation about human brains being bigger, and we're "more speshul" etc... )

shmokes:
I have my very own ghost story, and it's recent.  I flew British Airways to Paris last summer and they give everyone on the plane those beauty mask things so you can blot out any light in the cabin to catch some sleep.

So anyway, my bedroom window in Paris faced east but I had to leave my window wide open cos the French (Europeans in general?) don't believe in air conditioning, so every morning at like 5 am the sun would start blazing into my window.  Anyway, for the first few days  I started putting that eye mask on so I could get a bit more sleep before the sun woke me up in the morning.

For reasons unknown to me I started dreaming like crazy as soon as I arrived.  I was waking up like 5 to 10 times per night.  One morning after I'd already been woken up once or twice from a dream I was sleeping, having another dream when I was suddenly and horrifically awoken by someone in my bed physically lifting my eyemask off my face -- like he/she had grabbed the bottom of the mask between thumb and forefinger under each eye and was slowly pulling it up.  It startled the ---fudgesicle--- out of me and it snapped me out of whatever dream I was having and I jumped up, pulled off the mask and I actually called out . . . not like a scream, but definitely a startled as hell, who the ---fudgesicle--- is in my room, "Heyyyaaahhh!!!!"

But nobody was there.  Of course it was part of my dream, but it wasn't part of my dream at all, if you know what I mean.   Like, I was having a dream about something innocuous, in a fictional dreamworld that had nothing to do with Paris or my room or my real life or the mask currently being pulled off my face by an unseen adversary.  And suddenly it happened.  Obviously I was dreaming, but it didn't fit in at all in any way with the other dream I was already having.

Anyway, if it was a ghost I can only imagine that he/she spent the next hour or more rolling (floating?) around on the floor laughing its ass off.  Definitely a mean trick.   ;D

BTW, I don't believe in ghosts, but I'm embarrassed to admit that I also never wore the eye mask to bed again.  :)

Xiaou2:
 
--- Quote ---Xiaou2, do you think that you are unable to experience pain or taste blood in dreams?
--- End quote ---

 Sure you can.  But I wasnt dreaming.

 Anyone knows that as real as a dream can be... there are usual signs of it being a
dream.   One of the best cues, is that Something is Fuzzy.  Usually, you dont remember
how you got there, or how you got back... or some other details.

 Also, if something scares the pee out of you... You usually wake up very quickly.

 There is also a level of control that you lose with a dream.  While some people can
control their dreams (usually with a lot of practice) ...I can not. The level of control
Ive had was extremely limited. Partially waking, and not vivid or super conscious.

 Anyways, as said, there is not even the tinyist shread of doubt about me dreaming it up.


 "If ghosts existed.  There would be billions of them.  Trillions.  They'd be all over the place.  "

  The Theory is that Most spirits move on to the next realm or lifetime.   Usually guided
by other spirits.   However, there are a few lost souls here and there that will not
be convinced to move on.   Usually, its only the violent deaths or extreme personalities
(angry, hateful..etc.) that stay behind.

 Most spirits wouldnt want to kick around terrorizing the living... and can easily be
convinced to move on to something new.

 I can only guess that sub human level conscious creatures.. such as cats, pass
easily to other new creatures... possibly graduating to human level.  And humans
graduating to other beings, with even greater consciousness.

 
 There is also the fact that many people can not sense the other realm.  Most who
do not believe.. never will allow their radio to stray... and or will never loan power
to the others, that would grant them more ability to be known in the physical realm.

 Even the greatest efforts may not be enough... and the ones who are able to
move things, knock..etc.. usually run out of power to do things really quickly.

 
--- Quote ---Maybe what you were seeing was an unintentional mental projection from you or someone else?
--- End quote ---

 Ive never projected anything before, or in my future.  And, if I was projecting,
wouldnt that Stop the moment I bit my tongue?  Wouldnt it be something more scary
than an old lady?   Not many people I know would try to project an old lady rocking
on a landing in an appt complex in the middle of the country, at 2am... on a staircase
landing 15 ft up.


--- Quote ---Maybe there was a small rift to a parallel dimension and what you saw wasn't a ghost, but a living breathing person that exists just under the fabric of our own dimension?
--- End quote ---

 Slightly possible..   But logically, not all too sound.   Why wouldnt I see more of an
actual portal?  Such as a ripped window which one could see more than just the person?

 This also wouldnt describe the shadow figure event which I didnt mention yet...
which happened somewhere else in the house, in the daytime, twice in one day.

 Nor would it describe the stuff my mother has experienced, and sees on a constant basis.
As well as my aunts experience seeing pictures actually flying round the room.


--- Quote ---Maybe your mind was being controlled by a telepathic prankster?
--- End quote ---

At age 16, I started to dabble in the NewAge beliefs and related things.  I played with
telepathy a lot, as we tried to pass things to each other in and out of classes.
I had some wild successes.   However, it was not very clear, and nothing like what
was described.  Not even close.

 Also, Logically speaking... If such a person had that level of power, it would upset
the balance of things.  People would be zapping each other constantly.  There are
rules put in place in this universe.  While some things can be bent here and there...
for the most part.. things are fairly sound.


 The reality is,  Its possible that what I witnessed was merely some strange
quantum image projection.  However, Because Ive had other experiences, and because
I know others who have had much different experiences..  and because it makes
decent sense that consciousness can live...  I have high confidence in the afterlife.

shmokes:

--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on October 20, 2009, 10:32:44 pm --- Also, Logically speaking...

--- End quote ---

Finally!  :)


--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on October 20, 2009, 10:32:44 pm --- If such a person had that level of power, it would upset
the balance of things. 

--- End quote ---

Oh . . .   :-[

protokatie:

--- Quote from: shmokes on October 20, 2009, 11:42:00 pm ---
--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on October 20, 2009, 10:32:44 pm --- Also, Logically speaking...

--- End quote ---

Finally!  :)


--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on October 20, 2009, 10:32:44 pm --- If such a person had that level of power, it would upset
the balance of things. 

--- End quote ---

Oh . . .   :-[

--- End quote ---

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That made my day!

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