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Purchasing Arcade monitors.
Infa Red:
--- Quote from: PL1 on July 20, 2021, 07:37:47 pm ---Saint a.k.a. John St.Clair is our gracious host who has been running this site since late 1997 and is the author of "Project Arcade".
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Ahhh, got'chu. Ok thanks for the info. And he IS a Saint, cause he got this great wealth of informational site to help us all and its still up and running. My first computer was in 1998. I swore I was the first person with internet. It was definitely not popular back then. I had no clue there was internet a year earlier. I mean, I knew about military style internet and for us is was so rudimentary that you couldn't;t really call it the internet yet. So if he really started this site in 1997, then the cost must have been massive ! Cause all that stuff came down in expenses and is much easier now. WOW I am impressed. 1997.
--- Quote from: PL1 on July 20, 2021, 07:37:47 pm ---The filter is a one-way street.
- If you're reading an unfiltered post and your filter is off, it should show up unfiltered.
- If an unfiltered post is quoted by someone with the filter on, it will show up filtered regardless of your filter setting.
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Ok, so that must be what's going on with my censorship thing. Its piggybacking off someone else. lol I like no censorship. Its just more real to me. Even if someone says something I do not like or to put me down, I feel thats their right to say that. Doesn't bother me none. I actually like it.
Anyway thanks for clearing that up. And again also - THANKS to Saint for hosting this place for so long to help folks out.
Well we side tracked this thread enough - haha Back to monitors ! And hail CRT's over LCD's !
brandon:
I'm one of those people that wish they'd start producing CRTs again due to the surging popularity of retro games.. but I know it's not going to happen. However, one thing that COULD happen is reproduction of the CHASSIS or even a completely new design based on modern tech. That sort of thing is already happening with vector monitors. I've seen complete reproductions of old Amplifone chassis, Wells Gardner 6100s and even new designs based on the old ones. I wish somebody would make a nice universal chassis that could turn all these old TVs into RGB monitors. Someone smarter than me could make a chassis that could work regardless of yoke impedance with a few different neck boards for different sockets. It could have a built in component video transcoder, SCART connector, molex for arcade RGB.. etc. Think about all the undesirable RF only Televisions that have nice tubes. If there was a small chassis that could fit inside the case and add an RGB input.. That would be AWESOME :)
Zebidee:
--- Quote from: brandon on September 12, 2021, 09:50:50 pm ---I'm one of those people that wish they'd start producing CRTs again due to the surging popularity of retro games.. but I know it's not going to happen. However, one thing that COULD happen is reproduction of the CHASSIS or even a completely new design based on modern tech. That sort of thing is already happening with vector monitors. I've seen complete reproductions of old Amplifone chassis, Wells Gardner 6100s and even new designs based on the old ones. I wish somebody would make a nice universal chassis that could turn all these old TVs into RGB monitors. Someone smarter than me could make a chassis that could work regardless of yoke impedance with a few different neck boards for different sockets. It could have a built in component video transcoder, SCART connector, molex for arcade RGB.. etc. Think about all the undesirable RF only Televisions that have nice tubes. If there was a small chassis that could fit inside the case and add an RGB input.. That would be AWESOME :)
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You can already buy new, cheap Chinese clones of Wei-ya and other classic monitor chassis brands for around $20. Quality is variable and good luck matching to the tubes you have.
Neckboards are relatively easy as often all you need to do is to replace the socket to match. Adjusting to accommodate different yoke impedances is trickier. Usually easier to swap the original yoke from a suitable-but-dead tube onto a replacement.
Given how easy it still is to access the stocks already sitting in peoples sheds and on roadsides, making new CRTs at this point would be folly for any business that actually wants to make a profit. The industry is dust and tumbleweeds now. It is true that some quality old CRT TVs and monitors can get good prices these days, but you still couldn't be price competitive with a re-started new product. By the time that dynamic changes (if it ever does), restarting manufacturing will likely be even harder. We might love our retrogaming, but who would pay $1000 for a new generic 19" CRT arcade monitor? $500 maybe, but even then it would be a hard sell.
Then there is the shipping, which costs a ton for CRTs. This effectively breaks the global market up into a bunch of smaller markets, kinda kills the already fragile economics of a single factory supplying the world's CRT lovers.
But I agree, it would be great to better understand how to tweak standardised new chassis to work with a range of different tubes. I know some chassis like the Smart Image generic ones can be modded to suit a range of tube variants, but you need specialist technical knowledge (of which I know but a fraction).
dankykang:
--- Quote from: brandon on September 12, 2021, 09:50:50 pm ---I'm one of those people that wish they'd start producing CRTs again due to the surging popularity of retro games.. but I know it's not going to happen. However, one thing that COULD happen is reproduction of the CHASSIS or even a completely new design based on modern tech. That sort of thing is already happening with vector monitors. I've seen complete reproductions of old Amplifone chassis, Wells Gardner 6100s and even new designs based on the old ones. I wish somebody would make a nice universal chassis that could turn all these old TVs into RGB monitors. Someone smarter than me could make a chassis that could work regardless of yoke impedance with a few different neck boards for different sockets. It could have a built in component video transcoder, SCART connector, molex for arcade RGB.. etc. Think about all the undesirable RF only Televisions that have nice tubes. If there was a small chassis that could fit inside the case and add an RGB input.. That would be AWESOME :)
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You can turn most old TVs to RGB monitors by hacking the "jungle chip". See tutorial below:
https://youtu.be/DLz6pgvsZ_I?t=174
Tommy714:
Ok, a couple of questions.
1. what is the largest 4:3 LCD arcade monitor available for a reasonable number?
b. I've got a 27" 800x600 arcade CRT in excellent condition with no burn in whatsoever. What's it worth?
3. Is it really cheaper to do 16:9 and have to deal with the bezels instead of buying a 4:3 monitor?
Please keep the flames to a minimum, I don't get out much...
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