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Ginsu Victim:

We survived the IDSA and Doug Lowenstien in the late 90s. This too shall pass.

RayB:

Wow, great in-depth article, but a couple things still don't "fit".

Ultracade machines were sold at the same distributors as other arcade games, so it's not like it was flying under the radar. They also showed their machines at the same tradeshows, like AMOA. Again, really not under the radar.

Where were the lawyers through all this? You don't negotiate licenses without a lawyer. I guess one angle could be that they didn't use any, and thus their gross ignorance, indifference and distorted view of copyright and trademark law.

Remember all the talk about putting together iROMs ? How could something like that have any hope of being pulled off without it being legit?! (ok fair enough, it never came to be)

It's just weird. I don't see how one could have done everything alleged and NOT expect to get caught. If you're going to be that bold (and stupid?) you might as well take the Bernie Madoff path and live it up with other peoples money (hypothetical--im not condoning this). Why waste time with this arcade stuff just to scrape together an average living??

So basically what im saying is... the facts so far don't make sense yet.


CheffoJeffo:


--- Quote from: isucamper on August 12, 2009, 02:51:47 pm ---I'm just saying.  Its drawing attention to the copywrites of these old games. 

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Don't worry ... from what I hear, this is all the kewl kids are saying:


--- Quote from: isucamper on April 11, 2009, 05:36:22 pm ---Just because you work hard on something, doesn't mean you have the right to anyone's money.

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I'm sure the companies will see the wisdom in those words.

 :P

 ;)

shardian:


--- Quote from: RayB on August 12, 2009, 03:01:38 pm ---

It's just weird. I don't see how one could have done everything alleged and NOT expect to get caught. If you're going to be that bold (and stupid?) you might as well take the Bernie Madoff path and live it up with other peoples money (hypothetical--im not condoning this). Why waste time with this arcade stuff just to scrape together an average living??

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First off, buying a 2.3 million dollar house is hardly 'scraping by'. Secondly, many folks knew what Bernie Madoff was doing, and tried to blow the whistle on him for years. The SEC did not do their job.

So why not do what he did? What better forum to do it than arcade games - of which noone gives a ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- for the most part about anymore anyways?

I do agree though, that it is a simple matter to produce documentation and money/paper trails for licensing. It is not something done with a handshake.

I have sent an email to Global VR to make them aware of this article, and to possibly get comment from them on the legality of their game licensing. Considering they have license contracts with major name brands (NASCAR, Fast & Furious, etc) I have to assume their paperwork is in order. Personally, I like many of the Global VR products. They are pretty much the last horse in the race for arcades. They need the opportunity to distance themselves from this accusation if at all possible.

shardian:

And on the Global VR note, the mere idea of a sale of the Ultracade system would almost certainly have to include the relevant licensing contracts. What kind of lawyer would sign off on that purchase without them?

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