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Malenko:
--- Quote from: MaximRecoil on July 24, 2009, 09:38:41 pm ---The Pac-Man cabinet wasn't specially produced for Pac-Man either. It was reused from Galaxian. There are many examples of this with dedicated machines.
I've already defined "dedicated" in the only logical way that it can be defined. What's your definition? So far your objections to SFII CE being dedicated have been arbitrary. I'm looking for a sensible definition of "dedicated" that would include Pac-Man as a dedicated machine, yet at the same time, exclude SFII CE.
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--- Quote from: Malenko on July 24, 2009, 09:26:31 pm ---Lets not get all uppity over nothing.
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dont be like PBJ or Chaddles, kk?
MaximRecoil:
--- Quote from: Malenko on July 24, 2009, 11:43:43 pm ---
--- Quote from: MaximRecoil on July 24, 2009, 09:38:41 pm ---The Pac-Man cabinet wasn't specially produced for Pac-Man either. It was reused from Galaxian. There are many examples of this with dedicated machines.
I've already defined "dedicated" in the only logical way that it can be defined. What's your definition? So far your objections to SFII CE being dedicated have been arbitrary. I'm looking for a sensible definition of "dedicated" that would include Pac-Man as a dedicated machine, yet at the same time, exclude SFII CE.
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--- Quote from: Malenko on July 24, 2009, 09:26:31 pm ---Lets not get all uppity over nothing.
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dont be like PBJ or Chaddles, kk?
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You came in here and claimed I was wrong. If you're going to claim someone is wrong, be prepared to back up your claim with facts. If you can't do that, then the intellectually honest thing to do is, withdraw your claim; you know, rather than making laughable attempts at being condescending (laughable due to your erroneous position).
Beretta:
just my 2 cents, although i suppose i'd have to agree with the logic that any cabinet rolling out of the factory for a specific game is dedicated..
i suppose my own rule of thumb is rather or not it has full side art.. if it's just a small square sticker, then it's a conversion imo.
dedicated cabs should have large full scale side art, and the older games preferably a decorated monitor plexi glass or bezel..
personally i'd rather have straight single colored side panels then some dinky little generic sticker.
for me the dedicated cabs was mostly about their decoration.
MaximRecoil:
--- Quote from: Beretta on July 25, 2009, 04:18:59 am ---just my 2 cents, although i suppose i'd have to agree with the logic that any cabinet rolling out of the factory for a specific game is dedicated..
i suppose my own rule of thumb is rather or not it has full side art.. if it's just a small square sticker, then it's a conversion imo.
dedicated cabs should have large full scale side art, and the older games preferably a decorated monitor plexi glass or bezel..
personally i'd rather have straight single colored side panels then some dinky little generic sticker.
for me the dedicated cabs was mostly about their decoration.
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The first thing that comes to mind is that Pong and Computer Space didn't have sideart at all. Also there were some dedicated machines from companies such as Gremlin that had woodgrain sides with no sideart.
There were plenty of dedicated machines that didn't have full sideart. Donkey Kong's sideart for example could have worked fine as conversion kit sideart, since it was just stuck in the upper center of the side panels and didn't conform to the shape of the cabinet. The same goes for all other classic Nintendo machines in fact.
Malenko:
--- Quote from: MaximRecoil on July 25, 2009, 04:08:31 am ---You came in here and claimed I was wrong. If you're going to claim someone is wrong, be prepared to back up your claim with facts. If you can't do that, then the intellectually honest thing to do is, withdraw your claim; you know, rather than making laughable attempts at being condescending (laughable due to your erroneous position).
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I was at no point condescending. Heres my description of a dedicated cab:
A cab in which you can recognize what game was in it from the factory due to art and or shape.
There is no black and white answer, there almost never is in this world. I don't consider factory conversions dedicated cabs (like POW in double dragon cabs, others may, and theres nothign wrong with that. You say SFIICE had a dedicated cab, I say Capcom bought a buncha generic cabs and put SFIICE kits in them. With that being said, I dont like the way in which you reply to me in this thread so I'm withdrawing. There is a fine line between discussion and conflict and I prefer to not get close to it. In a perfect world you could see that we are both right, but needless to say this isnt a perfect world.