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| Tiger-Heli:
Hey 1UP - glad to see you're still around. The thing I don't like about SOME of Scapino's table's is they can be really dark. With a real pin, you can shift your viewpoint to see more what's going on, with VP, you can't. Scapino also does some of the Pinball Legends (??) tables and posted a bit about the differences (straight sides, full top down view, no perspective). The difference with MAME and VP is everything is customizable. With MAME, basically, you play PacMan, and if you don't like it you have to wait for the DevTeam to fix it. With VP, there might be five versions of the same table, and you can change the backdrops and flipper behaviour, etc. etc. For AFM - opinions are subjective, but PacDude above has a version of AFM, but it's a bit outdated now, IMHO (it's somewhat a darker table, though). JP Salas above has both VP8 and VP9 versions. I'm a bit mixed on which I like better .... VP9 - Has a larger DMD on the backglass where it belongs, has several view options to support 4:3 or 16:9 monitors as shown on JP's site. I think the flashing when the saucer is destroyed is better - it flashes in VP8 - it seems to strobe left to right in VP9. I don't like the Barstool background, but I adapted JP's VP8 background to the table. Lacks the saucer LED's, though. VP8 - better background and saucer LED's, no backglass to position the DMD on. Overall, I slightly prefer the VP9 table. If you're an AFM fan, you should also check out Attack/Revenge from Mars on JP's site - it's essentially the RFM playfield graphics with the AFM romset. |
| 1UP:
Yeah, I played Revenge from Mars this weekend, and I still really like the AFM playfield and gameplay. The video screen in the middle of the playfield on RFM just felt like a cheap gimmick, the animated saucer and aliens are really cool on AFM IMO. Do you know if it's easy to change the default camera angle on existing tables? I'd like to look into making a pin machine with a rotated flatscreen ala Multipin where the playfield fills the whole monitor. LCD TVs are really getting cheap for decent sizes. |
| Tiger-Heli:
I haven't really messed with it, but I don't think it is easy to do. Future Pinball uses a 3-D model and could probably handle it if anyone has built a table for it. The Hyperspin forum is probably your best bet for asking this, and some conversions have been done for it. I know you can pretty easily display the playfield on one flat LCD and the backglass and DMD on a vertical one. Rotating and maybe even stretching the playfield is probably workable, but I think getting the sides parallel (no perspective), would probably involve moving and adjusting the position and physics or all the ramps, targets, lights, habitrails, etc. - not easy. |
| 1UP:
Hey, got everything working nicely thanks to your recommendations. I think I like JP's AFM better, looks more like the real thing, and the playfield is bigger too which helps. Having just played the real machine a few days ago, this really feels pretty close. Following your links, I just went to IPMD and looked at their list of top 10 pins, then downloaded those tables from the various sites. Then grabbed anything off Scapino's that looked interesting. A dozen tables or so will be plenty for me since I never played pins that much in arcades, just a few extra options to add to my game list. I like some of the older games like Strikes And Spares and Eight Ball. I think Scapino and PacDude's tables are really beautiful. They have everything down to reflections and glows off the side walls of the playfield. Of course nothing compares to a real table, but I think this will hold me over until I get a house with a basement and $4000 or so to spend on a nice pinball like AFM or Addams Family or Theater Of Magic. |
| Tiger-Heli:
Glad you got it set up - I'll have to try PD's AFM, I think I only set up JPG's versions. There's a Poll here that you might be interested in - hard to say which I'd want, $4000 and a lot of upkeep, and then you can ONLY play AFM to TAF or TOM, or about the same money and you can play virtually anything you want, but it's not a REAL pin .... |
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