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AndyWarne:
Our contact at Suzo-Happ mentioned that they were supplying the E-Switches as the standard offering because they are cheaper than the Cherry switches.
But we will be continuing to supply Cherry switches with our pushbuttons unless the Cherry switches become completely unavailable which we dont expect to happen.
Andy
RandyT:

--- Quote from: AndyWarne on June 29, 2009, 06:13:08 pm ---Our contact at Suzo-Happ mentioned that they were supplying the E-Switches as the standard offering because they are cheaper than the Cherry switches.

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This is because, as I stated, HAPP's price on these has increased.  These increases get passed on to customers, unless a different vendor can be found to make an equivalent part for less.  The increase I heard was in the area of of 20-25%, which is very significant when you order 100's of thousands of units per year, which I am sure HAPP does.


--- Quote from: kowal on June 29, 2009, 04:19:20 pm ---the same...
cherry 10.000.000
e 1.000.000

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This is totally inaccurate.  The numbers you show for the Cherry switches have never been quoted in any official documentation from the manufacturer.  Regardless, the longevity of these devices tend to be rated based primarily upon contact life, and because they are rated at up to 15amps / 125v, or 1875watts, that will very likely be much shorter than the mechanical life of the switch.  This is why one sees these over-inflated numbers in applications where power isn't concerned.  In control applications, we never use more more than a few milliamps at 5v, or somewhere around .025 watts, so the contact life is a moot point.

We sell many thousands of switches a month, so we we don't have a stockpile of the old switches laying around.  But I encourage folks to try the E-Switches.  At the end of the day, a switch is just a set of contacts and a piece of spring loaded metal with specific resistance values and make/break points.  So long as these values are similar, then there is little difference in the end.  Folks looking for "performance" switches, probably won't find themselves satisfied with either variety, so the impact of this change is not even significant with that group.

We have already inquired about offering the original Cherry for the die-hard fans, but we don't yet have pricing for these.  Regardless, we should be able to do it for less than the $.75 per button over our current pricing charged by some other vendors. 

RandyT
kowal:
for your information 1mln is very, very small for standart V microswitches
1.000.000 is standart only for soft buttons with micro on ball (like japan and corean)
they have low endurance but they are gentle, but this is different type of switch

on e-sitch you get still clumsy switches (buttons over 50g) and low endurance
it is standart horizontal V construction, and good firms have 3-50.000.000





Ken Layton:
Cherry made alot of coin switches. Will this new company also make coin switches?
RandyT:

--- Quote from: kowal on June 30, 2009, 10:43:45 am ---for your information 1mln is very, very small for standart V microswitches
1.000.000 is standart only for soft buttons with micro on ball (like japan and corean)
they have low endurance but they are gentle, but this is different type of switch

on e-sitch you get still clumsy switches (buttons over 50g) and low endurance
it is standart horizontal V construction, and good firms have 3-50.000.000

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Once again, Kowal, you seem to be speaking from inexperience.  If you look for a manufacturers rating at all on the HAPP branded Cherry switches, you will find none.  And, as I stated, these numbers you use are contact ratings, which are meaningless in this application.  The actuation force is very soft, and measures about the same as the Cherry switches, so I don't know what you mean by the "over 50g" comment.  These specifications are dictated by the purchaser.  Just because a switch is branded E-Switch, or Cherry, doesn't indicate the performance specifications of the switch.  They are built differently internally to accomodate whatever performance the purchaser requires.  Obviously, HAPP has indicated a need for similar specifications with these switches as those they were using previously.

Have you even seen one of the new ones yet to try them?

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