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TOK:

--- Quote from: Fordman on June 29, 2009, 05:16:48 pm ---
Toymotor - nissan uses temp services that means no full time, no benefits and at-will employment! The cheap cotton field labor in the south has turned into cheap manufacturing labor in the south. The southern US states and their legislatures still are stuck in 1810! They want cheap labor and for you to just get a bowl of rice and water and be happy while they eat their steak, potato's and drink their wine right in front of you!


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I heard a story on the radio about Toyota... It says they've never laid off a full time employee, and was only just now looking at it because things are so slow. When there was a plant stoppage a few months ago, they let people do community service for full pay. Are you aware of that?
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090124/AUTO01/901240355
http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSTRE51G0WE20090217

Right now I have an Ford E250,  Nissan Titan and a Toytoa Tacoma.

The Ford chassis was assembled in Ohio, the 5.4 in Ontario Canada.
The Toyota was built in Freemont CA at a joint GM plant. It actually had some GM accessories, like a Delco battery when new.
The Nissan was built in Canton Mississippi.

How is it possible to truly buy American? Sure Nissan and Toyota are sending executive money back to Japan.
Is that any worse than Ford or Chevy spending millions on on CEO's here? The bread and butter jobs are in the plants, and for now Nissan and Toyota have them here rather than Mexico (I read Toyota is looking at a Mexico for the Tacoma though).

I drove a Ford and a Chevy before buying the Nissan. It was the better truck.
If I were to shop again today, I'd drive the Ford first. It has the nicest interior now, and the fact that Ford didn't take bailout money matters to me.

Its cool of you not to be confrontational about this, and also cool for you to love the company you work for.
That does say a lot about the both of you.  :cheers:

Dartful Dodger:

--- Quote from: Fordman on June 29, 2009, 05:16:48 pm ---Why buy from them? Because of all the people that directly or indirectly work for GM. Not only does the factory rat, supplier or the design engineer work for them, but those in the...
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Funny, I saw Flash of Genius last night and I was going to post it as a reason to avoid Fords.  Your post not only erased any ill feelings I had against Ford because of that movie, but it also erased any ill feelings I had for Ford before seeing that movie.

Dodges, on the other hand, still suk.

ChadTower:

Hrm...

RayB:
Can an arcade cabinet fit in a Scion xB (old style)?

Fordman:

--- Quote ---I heard a story on the radio about Toyota... It says they've never laid off a full time employee, and was only just now looking at it because things are so slow. When there was a plant stoppage a few months ago, they let people do community service for full pay. Are you aware of that?
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090124/AUTO01/901240355
http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSTRE51G0WE20090217

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Very much aware of the toymotor employees getting full pay for non-traditional jobs when their plant is idle. We did the same thing and the ever so wonderful Senators from tennesee, alabama and south carolina all complained about it. The UAW started the non-traditional job for pay program. Guess who paid the penalty for the complaining? United Way, Catholic Social Services, Goodwill Industries, Big Brother's - Big Sisters, about 50 different local school districts (lunch room and bus attendants), even the Cincinnati Zoo had about 10 of our guys there working, but Ford paying them. Not only does Ford pay them, but the insurance and the workers comp, but NOOOOO!!!! The lazy UAW workers were getting paid not to work in their plants, so the wonderful southern senators could grandstand!

funny how its good for 1 but not the other!  :dunno

Thanks to those that buy from an American company and still believes that it needs to be Made in the U.S.A. from a North American Company!

 :cheers:

Fordman

BTW hard to compare GM-Opel to GM-North America. Way difference in cars and life styles!

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