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So...wouldja buy a GM?
Dartful Dodger:
You'll need a really big steel box to defend against this accident:
Garbage Truck Falls on Car in New York, Killing Driver
TOK:
--- Quote from: pinballjim on June 28, 2009, 11:33:34 pm ---
Went to the Nissan place down the street. Fully loaded Titan V8 - ~330 HP, ~380 pounds of torque. $22k.
I test drove an 06 at CarMax (19k!) and it handled like a pig and was uncomfortable but fixed all the retarded crap that American trucks do to their interiors. Supposedly they were redesigned in 2008 and improved the handling.
As much as it disgusts me.. the freakin import is selling cheaper than domestics and if my F-150 has some major malfunction at 99k I'm sure as hell not buying another Ford.
:P
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I have a 5.4 liter Ford truck and a Titan. That "freakin' import" would run away from an empty bed Ford with 3 games and three of the fattest people you could find playing them in the back. It also handles better, so I'm guessing the one you drove was either in a wreck or somehow screwed up.
The Ford has been reliable, but nowhere near matches the power of the Nissan. Unfortunately, Dodge and Nissan did some kind of deal and the next gen Titan is going to be a gussied up Ram.
Weren't you the one saying trucks were pretty much 5 grand under invoice since nobody was buying them? :laugh2:
Fordman:
Ok, I'll chime in here since I work for Ford.
First of all, should you buy from GM, my off the cusp answer would be no, Buy Ford. But the logical answer would be Yes! Why buy from them? Because of all the people that directly or indirectly work for GM. Not only does the factory rat, supplier or the design engineer work for them, but those in the service, health, insurance, trucking & rail, utility, steel, rubber and coutless others work for GM. If GM would just be 'hung out to dry and let fail' then up to 10,000,000 people will be out of their jobs almost over night! You want to see the stock market tank, people flock to banks and withdraw their physical cash, let GM fail without the Government assistance! If good 'ole GW was still in office, he'd have no choice to do what Obama has had to do.
2 local MRI and CT-scan facilities have closed up since Jan of this year because of the new GM & Chrysler UAW active and retired concessions. Hard to believe that those 2 companies kept 2 centers afloat, but they did! I know this for a fact because the boys mother works in the billing dept for the MRI Centers.
For those that say "It's my money and I'll buy what I want", you have the right to buy what you want!. But, if you dont buy from your neighbor, how can your neighbor buy from you? You might be an IT programmer and ask, how does my neighbor buy from me? Well, with what ever your company offers to the world, someone has to be buying or you wouldnt have a job to begin with. If GM was to buy whatever your company was selling, be it something physical, intellectual or virtual, you'd make sure what you were selling them was top-notch evrytime, so they come back to you! You fill their needs, they line your pockets! I also agree tha GM needs to do the same, build the best car so they come back!
As for those that buy from asian car companies, first of all, the profits go back to japan or korea, currency manipulated and redeposited back into US treasury-currency exchange for higher currency yields. YES THIS IS HOW THEY WORK! So when toy-motor makes a profit of 20+% off of your purchase, they are doing this buy woking the currency system! GM-Chrysler-Ford-Mitsubishi doesnt have this luxury!
As for the hyundai being made in the midwest, geographically wrong! Only 3 models are made in Alabama, (Genesis, Sonata, Santa Fe) with imported labor! I said that corectly, imported labor. The hyundai plant in Alabama has laborers from korea, the european Balkin states and Turkey. They give the laborers 6 month work visa's, room and board, cash payments and on-site health care (band-aids and tylenol). Yes, this is a fact too! Alabama let hyundai build there with a 30 year abatement on physical labor. Less than 5% of their workforce is from the U.S.A.
Honda in Ohio-Indiana is the only jap company to hire full time, regular employees. I applaud them for that but thats where I stop.
Toymotor - nissan uses temp services that means no full time, no benefits and at-will employment! The cheap cotton field labor in the south has turned into cheap manufacturing labor in the south. The southern US states and their legislatures still are stuck in 1810! They want cheap labor and for you to just get a bowl of rice and water and be happy while they eat their steak, potato's and drink their wine right in front of you!
Enough of my ramblings!
:cheers:
Fordman
Fordman:
Also,
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Fordman
ChadTower:
I was on ford.com today and they say 0% financing is available. And I am seriously considering replacing my civic with a pickup.
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