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So...wouldja buy a GM?
daywane:
I am in KY. Rust is a problem here but not to bad
Salt used in winter is the big rust killer hear.
drive in car wash in winter as soon as it gets warm enough helps.
RV came from AZ. Paint fades off cars there. no real rust.
WunderCade:
--- Quote from: ChadTower on June 28, 2009, 08:49:39 am ---What state are you in? This doesn't happen in New England. Some will reach 200k but not many at all and it takes a lot of dedication on the part of the owner to get it there. Even the cars known to run forever often can't make it that far because they rust out around the drivetrain before the engine is done.
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In California, my 1995 Mazda Protege is still a champ at 223,000 miles commuting 50 miles a day. The interior is falling apart, the cheap plastics are crumbling....but it's still going strong and the A/C is still cranking out cold air.
RayB:
--- Quote from: daywane on June 28, 2009, 01:05:46 pm ---Salt used in winter is the big rust killer hear.
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Good to know. I always thought the opposite.
Level42:
I don't understand why the discusion here focusses totally on the product (the cars) and not on the company, which has been so mis-managed over the last 2 decades. If you don't agree with your government saving GM (I personally feel they should have let it go bust, because that's the American way and it's what will be the best thing to happen to it in the end) I wouldn't buy a car from them.
I've driven a lot of GM products, all Opel cars and I hated each and every one of them, although the very last one (which had a Fiat designed engine) was already getting better.
Why I drove them ? Because that's what the companies I worked for chose as a company car.
Since then I've driven a Renault (much to my own surprise, I choose that one myself and loved it) and now I'm driving my second Skoda Oktavia, which is basically a Volkswagen Golf stationwagen. It's a great car to drive, although it has it's little pro's and con's like any other car.
I feel that the American car builders fail(ed) to match what the market asks for. Lower fuel consumption while maintaining or improving engine power, better quality etc. Even Opel screwed up big with their latest models. The new Insignia is a very nice car though but it maybe too late. I think they would do better without the GM connection.
My wife drives a small Ford Fiesta. We bought it new. It has an old-fashioned 8-valve engine. It's been running without any problem since we bought it in 2000 and I intend to keep the car for as long as it will be running without problems, goal is too reach the year 2015 with it....the down-side is that it's not very fuel-efficient compared to the more modern engined-cars.
If I would have to buy a car, I'd go for a used Japanese car. Most reliable cars ever built. My basic demands for a car is that they are reliable and have low maintenance costs.
LLUncoolJ:
--- Quote from: pinballwizard79 on June 27, 2009, 12:16:07 am ---Toyota FJ Cruiser!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Word to that. I plan on buying a 20 year old FJ when I retire and use it as my beach cruiser. It should be all beat up and cheap by then. I love the look, but no way I could do it now, not with 2 little ones to haul around, gotta have a decent sized back seat.
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