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So...wouldja buy a GM?
Ginsu Victim:
I bought a Honda because it was the best choice for my price range, and I know it will last longer than my last two American cars (Chevrolet and Dodge).
Dartful Dodger:
--- Quote from: massive88 on June 26, 2009, 02:21:18 pm ---I love it when people blame the consumers. In a free economy, you buy the product that best suits your needs. If American auto companies want to get pissed off that their products aren't being bought by their employees, I dunno, make a better product to fulfill their needs?
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If I'm remembering the story correctly most of the people claimed to have bought their cars before they were employees. One woman said she was saving up to buy a new car from her company, but was driving the same car she had in college. But one of the managers who had a personal parking space near the main entrance had a luxury BMW or something like. It was the factory workers that complained about the BMW. They just wanted to ban foreign cars in personal spots, they didn't think it would be the whole lot. Just like they don't think that not buying a car from the company was going to contribute to their plant being shut down in 2009.
--- Quote from: massive88 on June 26, 2009, 02:21:18 pm ---Im pretty sure no one buys a Honda or Toyota simply because its non-American the way that people want Americans to buy American cars simply because they are American.
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People pay more for French wine that tastes the same as California’s.
I know there are Americans who hate everything American. I dislike unions, I buy American cars because of what they look like, represent. Even if it was made in Mexico by Chinese parts. It's still an American car.
LLUncoolJ:
We've seen this whole argument on other threads. It wasn't really intended to be an America vs the world thing. More of a 'does it bother you that all of GM's debt is washed clean while Ford took on a mountain of it in order to survive? If so, enough to not buy a GM?'
I'm not sure why this bugs me so much. Before the bailout, I only hated Pontiacs, not GM as a whole. I owned a Chevy Tahoe for my last car. And I think that new Camaro is bad-ass (pains me to say because we'll see 80 million of them on the road in a year and I'll be ripping on them).
ChadTower:
--- Quote from: Dartful Dodger on June 26, 2009, 02:59:21 pm ---People pay more for French wine that tastes the same as California’s.
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I owned an Escort. Now I own a Civic. The difference in quality is exponential. The two cars do not taste the same.
massive88:
--- Quote from: Dartful Dodger on June 26, 2009, 02:59:21 pm --- Just like they don't think that not buying a car from the company was going to contribute to their plant being shut down in 2009.
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Blaming the consumer again.
Not making a product that could stand up to the market is what caused their plant to be shut down. The car needs to stand on its own merits. Being a Patriotic buy would tip the scales of two equal cars (financing, retention value, warranty, reliability etc...) in the American companies favor, as I would think its a safe guess that all things being equal, Americans would prefer to buy American products. But the companies cant rely solely on that to make their product superior, if you make a inferior, or even perceived inferior product, you wont survive the free market.
Chad's account is spot on with my personal experience. If I am buying in that price range, and I test drive an Cavalier and a Civic in the early 2000s, they weren't even close, but its my fault that I go with the better product? What should it matter who my employer is?
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