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ChadTower:
The Rugrats N64 game is one of the worst... games... eeeeeeeeever.
TOK:
--- Quote from: pinballjim on June 15, 2009, 12:12:26 pm ---I guess I just don't 'get' Sponge-Bob. Seems like a lot of screeching and weird storylines to me.
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I never started watching it until a couple years ago when my kid got old enough for it. The first couple seasons were the best. I think they've pretty much gotten progressively worse, and the last two seasons are totally crap.
The one thing I admire about more recent cartoons is that they've been cartoons first and were commercialized after their success. All the 80's cartoons were just toy commercials.
ChadTower:
--- Quote from: TOK on June 15, 2009, 12:59:53 pm ---I never started watching it until a couple years ago when my kid got old enough for it. The first couple seasons were the best. I think they've pretty much gotten progressively worse, and the last two seasons are totally crap.
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I agree here... SpongeBob was really funny the first couple of years. Then they started to make money. Lots and lots of money. They have pumped out so much crap since then on the strength of the license that it hasn't been any good for quite a while. Kids don't need good, though, they need repetition and recognition. So it keeps making money.
RayB:
Once again, Ummon is out of step. Must be floating in another dimension than us. :D
While yes, Rocky and Bullwinkle, etc, were good, it all went to shoot by the 80's (good old moral majority at work, cleaning up anything and everything that could even remotely be considered "offensive"). The result was really crappy writing, animation and production values.
It took John Kricfalusi and his passion for the old stuff, good "acting" and animation to revive animation with Ren & Stimpy. Or you could argue he started to do so with the New Mighty Mouse cartoon, but really Ren & Stimpy's success and style led to a whole generation of new cartoons that pushed the style and content envelope. Not all are great or even good. Personally I hate the Odd Parents. All it is is the kid yelling and screaming all the time, but whatever, for a kid it's still miles ahead of the dreck we tolerated in the 80's.
(Recently saw Captain Caveman and the Teen Angels. OMG the art is terrible, the story is the SAME OLD CRAP we've seen a million times in Scooby Doo... just terrible. I felt sorry for Mel Blanc. Must have been a low point in his career.)
ChadTower:
Man, I used to love Spike and Mike's Animation festivals around that time. They would show 20-30 animators all doing roughly the same type of work. Kricfalusi was the first one to get on TV with it but he was far from the only one doing Ren and Stimpy type animation. A bunch of us would go to that festival every year when I was at Northeastern.
I just checked Kricfalusi's and it makes no mention of Ren and Stimpy being originally on MTV. My friend and I used to stay up to watch it at like 4am. I remember that very clearly.
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