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ChadTower:


--- Quote from: Malenko on June 12, 2009, 03:23:56 pm ---you telling me when he ripped Jim Cramer a new ---uvula--- on TV that wasnt journalism?

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Yes, absolutely.  Ripping someone a new one in no way falls into the "who what where when how why" roots of journalism.  It falls squarely into opinion and advocacy - it may be editorial but it's not journalism even by the current loosened Webster definition of the word.

shmokes:
Oh no, Chad.  You clearly have not seen the clip in question.  That was effing journalism.  We're talking exposing the man not just as an airbag, but as a criminal.  We're talking never-before-seen footage of Cramer admitting to committing securities fraud, and asking Cramer right there for comment on the footage.  It was freaking magical.

Malenko:

--- Quote from: ChadTower on June 12, 2009, 03:33:13 pm ---Yes, absolutely.  Ripping someone a new one in no way falls into the "who what where when how why" roots of journalism.  It falls squarely into opinion and advocacy - it may be editorial but it's not journalism even by the current loosened Webster definition of the word.

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Spoken like a guy who didn't see it. That was the most investigative piece of journalism I've seen on TV in a very long time, if not ever. Stewart called him out on his ---That which is odiferous and causeth plants to grow--- and showed clips of Cramer doing things he lamb basted everyone else for doing then asked him about it. You could tell he (Cramer) thought it was going to be a fluff piece and he got caught with his pants down.

This was in no way a clip. It was a solid 15 minutes and at no point was there joking around. I will give Cramer credit, he took it like a man and didnt just get up and leave. Schmokes described it perfectly, it was nothing short of magical. I would advise you to look for the segment then reply back and find some sort of excuse to not call it journalism. I haven't seen the NYTimes piece yet but now that I'm home from work I will be watching it.


EDIT:after seeing the piece that wasnt stewart ripping the times, that was more satire but at the same time did give you their perspective on the NYTimes. So I'd say it was more of a satirical opinion piece then "news" and/or journalism

EDIT2: For chad,
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/?searchterm=cramer&searchtype=site&searchtype=site
results #6,7,and 8  though I would suggest the UNEDITED version a little further down the page  #10,11, and 12

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