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Namco:

Absolutely right. Even a patched copy of Windows is so full of holes a hacker can take control of your computer's services within a few minutes of connecting to the Internet unless you're running the latest version of a good 3rd party anti-virus and firewall.

I've even seen once in a movie where hackers were able to hack into a computer system (a windows based system no doubt), and rerouted a bunch of gas lines to a power station and blow it up.

But usually viruses aren't that bad. Usually they're just keyloggers that run in the background collecting all of your passwords and bank records to sell to fund terrorist operations abroad.

And go ahead and turn off those pesky windows updates. Sometimes they make it easier to get viruses into your computer. Service packs are a JOKE too. The only thing they secure are securing that your computer is going to get slower by installing more and more bloated program updates.

And stuff like Internet Explorer 7 and 8 updates don't help you from getting spyware either. Best thing to for that is to run a good anti-spyware program like Spy Sweeper or Spyware doctor.

So in summary:

* Windows update are a joke, disable them
* Hackers see you when you get online and can poke into your computer
* Bill Gates will give you money if you forward his emails
* Make sure you are running Kaspersky anti-virus, ZoneAlarm Pro personal firewall, McAfee Security Suite, Spy Subtract anti-spyware, Ad-aware anti-adware, Spybot S&D helper and tea timer, Google Popup blocker, and Symantec script blocker
* Greedo shot first
* If your computer is not protected with as much third party protection as possible your identity will be stolen by hackers and sold to Al-Queda who will promptly blow up your house using your own hijacked computer to hack into the star wars defense satellites to target and fire upon your house from outer space


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danny_galaga:


--- Quote from: Namco on June 06, 2009, 02:35:59 am ---
I've even seen once in a movie where hackers were able to hack into a computer system (a windows based system no doubt), and rerouted a bunch of gas lines to a power station and blow it up.



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yippy ki ay brother!

DJ_Izumi:

Any skilled dedicated hacker can easily get into your windows system and there's nothing you can really do to stop it.  However you have one good benifit: You are an absolute nobody.  What are they gonna do?  Break in and steal your ROMs?  They can download them elsewhere.  Basicly there is no reward for the really good hackers to get into some nobody endusers system and mess with it.  ...Unless maybe you go to Defcon and start peeing on people.  That would be a bad idea.

You simply arn't a target because you arn't worth it.  It's like saying that any skilled and dedicated burgler can get into your house, even if you have real big locks and a security system.  However you don't a safe full of diamonds and a lost copy of the Declaration Of Independance so they won't bother.

saint:


--- Quote from: DJ_Izumi on June 06, 2009, 06:03:21 pm ---Any skilled dedicated hacker can easily get into your windows system and there's nothing you can really do to stop it.  However you have one good benifit: You are an absolute nobody.  What are they gonna do?  Break in and steal your ROMs?  They can download them elsewhere.  Basicly there is no reward for the really good hackers to get into some nobody endusers system and mess with it.  ...Unless maybe you go to Defcon and start peeing on people.  That would be a bad idea.

You simply arn't a target because you arn't worth it.  It's like saying that any skilled and dedicated burgler can get into your house, even if you have real big locks and a security system.  However you don't a safe full of diamonds and a lost copy of the Declaration Of Independance so they won't bother.

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That doesn't consider botnets. No one wants you individually. They want you as part of 25000 other compromised machines.


DJ_Izumi:


--- Quote from: saint on June 06, 2009, 06:56:46 pm ---That doesn't consider botnets. No one wants you individually. They want you as part of 25000 other compromised machines.
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Botnets however are not put onto your computer.  They are installed, usually unknowingly, by the user themselves.  A lot of malware that is connected to botnets evolves faster than the software to detect and remove that software even.  In this case, the best security is the user knowing not to download something that is a piece of crap carrying a payload.

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