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LLUncoolJ:
I'm thinking about starting a new thread...and there's nothing you can do about it. >:D

HaRuMaN:

--- Quote from: LLUncoolJ on June 05, 2009, 04:15:22 pm ---I'm thinking about starting a new thread...and there's nothing you can do about it. >:D

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I'll sick the cat on you.  He bites.

Fordman:

--- Quote from: RayB on June 05, 2009, 01:09:19 pm ---Just to clarify, the $25/hr at Toyota I mentioned is STARTING WAGE (I said that, but it was obviously unclear). So in other words, if you're a new hire and don't even necessarily have experience, you're making $50K a year starting salary, plus nice benefits after the probationary period (no union dues, and remember we have free health care here). So imagine what the long-term employees are making.  That's a good salary for this area and our cost of living. The only con is its shift-work, so you might be working days for a few weeks then switch to nights for few, etc.

(Minimum wage in Ontario, Canada is $9.50)


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I dont know Canadian Labor laws or history so I'm no qualified to answer about min wage in Canada, but do you really think toyota would pay $25.00hr if Ford, chrysler and GM didnt?

Toyota uses part time and temp labor here in the U.S.A.. Thats how they get around paying for benefits and legacy costs. When the UAW tried to organize a toyota plant in Georgetown, KY, the NLRB ruled that the workers that signed the cars for the election worked for the temp service and not toyota, so therefore the workers would have voted for the temp service to be Unionized. As with the NLRB ruling, toyota terminated the contract with the temp service. Toyota uses the temp services to maximize their profits and pay the temps nothing but 'maybe a chance' to get full time employement. 87% of all workers in toyota plants in the U.S. are temp workers with next to no benefits and NO pension or retirement plan. Temp services have done nothing but bring wages down. Everyone in the town of Georgetown, Ky has worked at Toyota and the majority have been fired. They bus in workers from Louisville and Eastern, KY daily because in Eastern, KY, all the coal mines have closed and $8.50hr plus a free ride to work is considered a 'Good Job'!

And No, I dont read from the Union manual. All I have to do is look out my back door and see the skeletons of what was once a thriving industrial park. One auto plant, 3 supplier plants, 1 small power plant, 1 water treament plant, 5 warehouses and lots of empty rail road tracks and parking lots. All have been vacant for 3 years now and arnt going to have tennants any time soon if we keep letting mexico and china take it all!

Fordman

CheffoJeffo:

--- Quote from: Fordman on June 05, 2009, 04:55:44 pm --- All have been vacant for 3 years now and arnt going to have tennants any time soon if we keep letting mexico and china take it all!

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Don't forget Canuckistan !

Fordman:
Canada isnt going to get the work either! You Canadians make too much money too! Just ask any company and they will tell you!

Fordman

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