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CheffoJeffo:

--- Quote from: ChadTower on June 05, 2009, 10:18:33 am ---
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--- Quote from: Fordman on June 05, 2009, 08:43:30 am ---The only reason the toyota workers get paid the $25.00hr is because the Ford, Chrysler & GM plants that are represented by the CAW.

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That's not quite accurate, but it definitely plays a part in terms of what the market will bear.

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Does it really?  The only way that would be a real factor is if the Toyota workers could jump to Ford.  If there are a thousand applicants for every job at Ford that is not a factor at all.  If that figure is anything close to accurate then Ford is a closed system and has no effect on market rates among at-will employees.

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Prior to the latest unpleasantness, it did here.

I probably should have couched that statement in the past tense, but there was competition between manufacturers here (all within 150 kilometers of each other).

Flake:

--- Quote from: danny_galaga on June 05, 2009, 01:38:12 am ---In short, I agree with Fordman in general about unions. The pigs at the trough would have you believe unions are irrelevant now, but as soon as unions are gone, companies will have absolutely no compulsion to look after your rights. That $2000-$4000 per car? You think they'll sell the car $2000-$4000 cheaper? Hip pocket, my friend. But go ahead, work 20 hours overtime a week without any penalty rates. CEO's luxury yachts don't come from thin air. Take it like a man. In Australia, we don't have to ;)

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Wow does that statement come straight from the union manual?  Union guys really soak their union leader propaganda stuff up.  

You want to discuss CEO's high salaries?  Why dont we discuss how much the head of the UAW makes?  I can guarantee you its no small sum.  I'm sure Ron Gettelfinger has a yacht parked in same harbor as William Clay Ford.  Has the union decreased your dues over the years to make sure their precious laborers take home enough pay?  Face it man, the union is nothing but another corporation that exists now for one purpose - to make money.  Their product is you.  But instead of marketing their product as beneficial and cost effective to their consumers (being Ford, GM, etc.) they use time tested methods of heavy handed enforcement and basically legal blackmail to force their product onto their consumer.

RayB:
Just to clarify, the $25/hr at Toyota I mentioned is STARTING WAGE (I said that, but it was obviously unclear). So in other words, if you're a new hire and don't even necessarily have experience, you're making $50K a year starting salary, plus nice benefits after the probationary period (no union dues, and remember we have free health care here). So imagine what the long-term employees are making.  That's a good salary for this area and our cost of living. The only con is its shift-work, so you might be working days for a few weeks then switch to nights for few, etc.

(Minimum wage in Ontario, Canada is $9.50)

Kevin Mullins:

--- Quote from: RayB on June 05, 2009, 01:09:19 pm ---(Minimum wage in Ontario, Canada is $9.50)

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US or CAD ?

LLUncoolJ:
I AM NOT A NERD!!!  :'(

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