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HaRuMaN:
The Fusion isn't even made in America. ::)
--- Quote ---The Fusion is manufactured at Ford's Hermosillo Stamping & Assembly plant in Hermosillo, Sonora, Mexico...
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ChadTower:
So doesn't that also mean the Fusion is made by people NOT in this guy's union? In fact wouldn't it mean that people in his union lost jobs so that cheaper Mexicans can build these cars instead of people in his union? Wouldn't he have friends at home unemployed because of the Fusion?
So if we buy a Fusion aren't we jabbing a stick in his eye?
Flake:
Oh for god's sake people, all this propaganda about "saving american jobs" is really horsecrap. When will people begin to understand our economy - and every other country for that matter - is no longer "national" its global. Ford manufactures cars in Mexico but Toyota manufactures cars in the US. Yea, lets stop buying Toyota's because they are a "foreign" company. Tell that to the employees of Toyota's 13 US manufacturing locations. Protectionism isnt going to help or solve anything. I'm not a Toyota apologist by any stretch but the level of ignorance that appears prevelant in labor unions.....and quite frankly the general public is baffling. People would rather believe what Joe politician or Bill union leader tells them than discover the truth for themselves.
You cant alter the movement of global economics. Basic economic theory holds that efficiency......eventually......wins over any other economic force. Might as well embrace it. If American workers want a piece of the pie develop some damn efficiency so your company can be competitive in the global environment. Otherwise, go wait in line at the unemployment office........
BTW - I drive a 2006 F-150 I purchased brand new and my wife drives a 2006 Ford Explorer purchased brand new.
Fordman:
Yes, the Fusion, Milan and MKZ are made in mexico. If it wasnt for NAFTA, they would be made right here in the U.S.A.
Actually, the Chicago Assembly plant may be adding a second assembly line for the Fusion. Ford is having trouble getting Fusion's out of mexico because of the governments unwillingness to fight organized crime and political corruptness there.
As for protectionism, I'm not preaching it. But if we dont make anything, who's going to buy anything? Show me a service job other than city trash collector that pays anything close to a livable wage. Why do we as Americans' or Europeans have to lower our standards of life to those in third world countries because they have backwards or corrupt governments?
BTW, who's going to build the military might if needed? At Ford, all of our machines, by law, have to be engineered to build military equipment at the press of a button. Who do you think built the war machine in WWI & WWII? Believe me, the toyota's and honda's of the world arnt going to build the tanks or planes if needed. And dont give me the "war is different now, we dont need tanks and planes" crap that many spew! The machines are tested every 90 days to make military builds and they have to work at a touch of a button he first time! The auto companies built the WWI & WWII war machine and they will build the next one if needed. And NO, the military Humvee and GM's Hummer are not the same! GM licensed the Hummer from AM General and use the Humvee look and feel for their design! A chinese company will not build Humvee's as some fear! 2 different animals.
Thats it for my ranting!
Oh, Thank You Flake for your F-150 and Explorer purchase! :cheers:
Fordman
ChadTower:
I have to point out here that it's thinking in 1940 terms rather than 2009 terms that got the US auto companies in this situation in the first place.
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