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Xiaou2:
--- Quote ---You don't seriously believe that a piece of printed cardboard mass produced by Milton Bradley is really a spritual gateway?
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Spiritual Communication devices have been developed since the times of
Ancient China, thousands of years ago. The Ouija was not invented by a game
company. It was bought by one.
The Ouija is merely a tool. Its the persons intention that means much more.
As that intent... to contact the other side... is a big key in opening a gateway.
The board does in some ways amplify that ability... because it allows easy
movement and precise method of communication.
The Ouija basically encourages a person to let a Spirit control their movements
through a connection with them. This is a big step in the direction of possession.
You are giving the spirit power and permission, both over yourself, as well as entry
into your life/realm.
Most would simply have a funny game out of the thing.. because there are many
non-believers who are intentionally steering the thing. Some simply have their
sub-conscious mind take over and create works of fabrication. However, there
are those who actually do make contact... and when it happens, it can be very
bad. In fact, according to what Ive read.. the most and worst cases of
Demonic/Spiritual harassment has been caused by use of the Ouija.
A persons ability to connect and develop a more clear and powerful pathway - grows
stronger the more that they use it.
--- Quote ---It's fun to pretend you have super powers.
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We are all super powers. Anyone can develop and enhance their own
intuitive abilities. Starting with daily hour long meditations. Where one learns to
quiet the "self/ego" ...and then can actually hear and sense things that they
once could not.
At one point in time (about ages 17 to 20), I went on a quest for higher truths. Found a class that gave intuitive instruction. After a few months time in class + doing 2hrs a day worth of meditations, my horrible scores on my ESP test were getting good, and got
about 10 points higher each week. Eventually I was actually getting spontaneous premonitions. These of which were of the near future.. and came true hours later in the same day. The stuff was quite amazing. Though admittedly, a bit scary.
The universe is much more mystical than many humans tend to want to admit.
Justin Z:
--- Quote from: Justin Z on May 22, 2009, 03:20:21 pm ---OMFG GHOSTS RUN
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VespaGuy:
--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on May 24, 2009, 07:53:48 pm ---
--- Quote ---You don't seriously believe that a piece of printed cardboard mass produced by Milton Bradley is really a spritual gateway?
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Spiritual Communication devices have been developed since the times of
Ancient China, thousands of years ago.
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And since the times of Ancient China, not a single one has been proven to contact spirits from beyind.
--- Quote ---The Ouija was not invented by a game company. It was bought by one.
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Becuase is is nothing more than a fun toy for young girls at slumber parties.
--- Quote ---The Ouija is merely a tool.
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That's not the only tool in this thread...
--- Quote ---Its the persons intention that means much more.
As that intent... to contact the other side... is a big key in opening a gateway.
The board does in some ways amplify that ability... because it allows easy
movement and precise method of communication.
The Ouija basically encourages a person to let a Spirit control their movements
through a connection with them. This is a big step in the direction of possession.
You are giving the spirit power and permission, both over yourself, as well as entry
into your life/realm.
Most would simply have a funny game out of the thing.. because there are many
non-believers who are intentionally steering the thing. Some simply have their
sub-conscious mind take over and create works of fabrication.
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The oujia board can easily be explained by the ideomotor effect: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideomotor_effect
--- Quote ---However, there are those who actually do make contact... and when it happens, it can be very
bad. In fact, according to what Ive read.. the most and worst cases of Demonic/Spiritual harassment has been caused by use of the Ouija.
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This is just begging the question.
--- Quote --- A persons ability to connect and develop a more clear and powerful pathway - grows
stronger the more that they use it.
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You'll notice that spirit communication will suddenly stop, or turn to gibberish, if the participants are blindfolded. Why is that? Hmmm...
--- Quote ---We are all super powers. Anyone can develop and enhance their own
intuitive abilities. Starting with daily hour long meditations. Where one learns to
quiet the "self/ego" ...and then can actually hear and sense things that they
once could not.
At one point in time (about ages 17 to 20), I went on a quest for higher truths. Found a class that gave intuitive instruction. After a few months time in class + doing 2hrs a day worth of meditations, my horrible scores on my ESP test were getting good, and got
about 10 points higher each week. Eventually I was actually getting spontaneous premonitions. These of which were of the near future.. and came true hours later in the same day. The stuff was quite amazing. Though admittedly, a bit scary.
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Sounds like you've claimed something you can actually demonstrate. How'd you like a cool million dollars? James Randi is offering 1 million dollars for proof of the paranormal. 2 hours a day seems like a small sacrifice for 1 million dollars!
I have ESP, too. I predict that you will have an excuse why you won't make an effort to demonstrate your ability for one million dollars (and possibly turning science on it's ear!!)
--- Quote ---The universe is much more mystical than many humans tend to want to admit.
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And it was even more mystical thousands of years ago. It's funny that the more we understand about the universe, the less mystical it is.
VespaGuy:
--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on May 24, 2009, 05:20:03 pm --- And Btw - The Great Randy is a scam in itself.
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So much wrong in one paragraph.
--- Quote ---The guy has a vested interest in not seeking the truth.
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Wrong.
Proving the paranormal would be a ground-breaking discovery. The entire framework of science would be turned upside down. This would be of such magnitude that the million dollars would pale in comparison.
--- Quote ---He also does not actively search nor research the topic of interest.
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Why should he? He doesn't care how you do what you claim. He only cares that you can do what you claim. If you can do it, and it's not be non-paranormal means, you've just won 1 million dollars.
--- Quote ---Ive also heard of people considering signing up for a challenge, and getting tons of complicated paperwork filled out... and any one error (which due to its intended design is extremely easy to make) will void the entire thing.
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Wrong.
Most claims are dropped because the claimant refuses to make a testifiable claim. Many of the claims they receive read like the hogwash you've peppered the thread with; "you need to be open to spirits to see them, blah, blah, blah", etc. But they never actually make a claim of what they can do. As I said earlier, they don't care how you claim to do your supernatural trick, just tell them WHAT you can do and do it. It's very simple, but most claimants can't make it pass this first step.
--- Quote ---Not only that... but He himself gets to make the rules...
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Wrong.
The foundation and the claimant design a protocol together that will produce obvious results to all involved. Just like any scientific test, double-blinds and controls are used, and it's usually at this point that any claimants who've made it this far drop out. See, when controls are used, the supernatural effect always dissappears.
--- Quote ---which means he can cheat the results.
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Double wrong!
First, all tests are designed so that the results are obvious to everyone. If you claim that you can read zener cards, you would agree on an amount that would qualify as a win (and seperate the results from random chance). So if you say that you can read zener cards and get 18 out of 20 correct, and you get 15 out of 20 correct, you lose. Simple as that. There is NO WAY to cheat.
And secondly, you'll be happy to know that Randi isn't even involved in most preliminary tests! They're usually done by independent groups.
--- Quote ---I believe people have to pay him to come out...
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Wrong.
As stated above, the foundation does it's best attempt to finding a testing facility close to the claimant. Yes, the travel is paid for by the claimant. But isn't that a drop in the bucket considering the million dollars to be won?
--- Quote ---as well as only 1 or 2 test are done per year.
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Wrong.
The number of tests done is directly proportional to the number of applicants who make it through to the preliminary testing. There is no "backlog" of claimants waiting for their turn.
--- Quote ---I cant recall all the details... but it was an extremely sketchy operation.
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You can't recall all the details? You apparently can't recall any details. You couldn't be more wrong about every detail if you tried.
--- Quote ---To even use him in an argument shows pure ignorance on the highest level.
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It is obvious where the ignorance lies.
1UP:
Holy crap, he knows Kung Fu AND has ESP! We'd better stop messing with this guy. :o
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