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genesim:

1up you said it broke, I am just stating the strength of the Heavy Duty.   Not saying that you don't have a great point with cost.

But what works is what works, and my mod has no problems.  But yes it is damn expensive.

RandyT:


--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on May 13, 2009, 11:57:34 pm --- You brought up Opinions about original controls -vs- modified controls  and how people seem to believe that classics do not require high fire rates.. and that the controls are not designed for high fire rates.   All of this is BS...  to which I stated my points:  That many people use Leafs incorrectly,  which would Lead to those poor opinions and assumptions.

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Please try to understand context.  Hell, just read what I wrote.  None of the games which use this controller have the high speed and quantity of fire requirements compared to a game like Defender, Stargate, Asteroids, etc.   Gorf, TRON, and Satan's Hollow had very modest requirements in this regard.  This is not "BS" and again, had nothing to do with your tangent.


--- Quote --- You dont make sense to me.   A micro is Off Until it snaps.  WHen the snap has completed - the circuit is completed.  Not before that point.  That is the entire
Point of a Micro.   To make the contact only when absolutly sure... and when that contact is made.. it stick there until certain distance is traveled in reverse.

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Correct.  And that reverse travel is 1/4mm or less.  Not 1mm, not 3/4mm, but 1/4mm or less.  The distance to actuation is irrelevant to the speed of a microswitch.  It is the reset distance and it is the specification that most closely relates to "contact bouncing" you seem to favor on a leaf switch.  One can indeed take advantage of this with some practice, but a switch with a lighter spring and shorter set/reset action positioned at the begining of the throw, as with the Micro-Leafs, makes this much much easier to achieve.

RandyT

TheShanMan:

xiaou2, must you keep crapping in this product announcement thread?

shilmover, looking forward to your trigger switch pics. ;D

1UP:


--- Quote from: genesim on May 14, 2009, 12:18:38 am ---1up you said it broke, I am just stating the strength of the Heavy Duty.   Not saying that you don't have a great point with cost.

But what works is what works, and my mod has no problems.  But yes it is damn expensive.

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I said the first design broke, the one I am using now (using 49way base and grommet) works much better and would probably work very nice with an Ultra 360 board.

genesim:

Thats very good.   As a rule the pressure should never be on the base with a flight stick as monsterous as this.   Call it expensive..call it alot of metal, but the Happs Heavy Duty is built like a tank.   The mod only serves as a bottom to catch the movement, but the pressure is on the cage at the top, no doubt about that.

Any other design is just going to promote breakage.   

You cannot have a rubber grommet in the middle and then one at the bottom, that is two pivot points and it will have all the effects of a fat guy on a seesaw with a little guy.   Sooner or later, that guy is going to go flying.   Unless..he is really really strong.   That is why I stuck to the original design.   It was a good one!

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