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DJ_Izumi:
Would a moderator maybe please take action in reguards to what genesim does to these threads?  They are valid topics of discussion and then he comes in and ruins them, requiring them to be locked as a result.

Multiple threads have been locked as the result of one person's instigation.  This isn't fair to the others who have otherwise participated reasonably and constructively in these threads.
genesim:
What "I" do?

You mean disagree?   I am not the one that starts personal attacking just because someone else is wrong.

But getting back on topic, would all of you please explain this picture from the Atari Catalog?

Xiaou2:

 No response to the stripped bubble?
RandyT:

--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on May 06, 2009, 01:09:06 am ---As far as I can remember, there wasnt much in the line of color bleeding on atari 2600,
as the pixel size they used was way too big.  However, there were effects such as
washed out colors, and slight blurring... and some colors bleeding such as reds.  These
are all common things that happen over a composite signal.

--- End quote ---

Maybe, but the 2600 was a level below composite.  It was RF.  The two are not in any way the same.  Composite was actually a big step up from RF in that it is a direct video signal.  RF, as the name implies, was a radio frequency modulated signal which was then de-modulated by the receiver.  It's literally akin to the difference between listening to a radio station and listening to the source from the radio station plugged directly into your amp with an RCA cable.  Two whole major steps of garbage producing conversion are removed with composite.

Whether the pixels were too large to do the kind of blending seen in Turbo or not is irrelevant.   Vertical resolution could be 192 pixels, and with some fancy programming, use up to 128 colors (Turmoil).  This vertical resolution is not terribly unlike some of the arcade games which followed later.  By placing different shades of similar colors above or below, and coupling it with the fuzzy RF modulated video signal and old-tech displays, somewhat decent gradients were achieved.  Very similar to the one shown in the enhanced side of the photo.  These were enhanced programming techniques and very timing dependent. I'm very familiar with the mechanics of this, as I once used a similar technique on the C-64 to display 128 animated sprites on screen at once when such a thing was unheard of.  Those types of effects are seen on later titles where programmers had become more familiar with the system and were working hard to squeeze every last bit of capability out of it.  So don't bother looking for them on early titles.

RandyT
genesim:

--- Quote ---Would a moderator maybe please take action in reguards to what genesim does to these threads?  They are valid topics of discussion and then he comes in and ruins them,
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Let me see, so I have an honest discussion about specifics and Hoopz comes on and tells a outright lie about a discussion that got locked and I got banned for...and then I ruined the topic?

Randy comes on and starts attacking me for my AGE.   My AGE and starts saying that I am lying because I won't give out my exact age?????

Dude, how was this my fault that it got ruined?

Look at the posts, I didn't start any of this negative crap then or now.  Every single one of them I was namecalled from the beginning.   I did nothing to deserve the behavior and I even complained to the moderator the moment it happened.   And I ruined it???  

I only "ruined" it because I believe something different from the MOB.    I am not allowed to think anything different hence my posts are deleted and I am banned.   Yet others name call, threaten, and personal attack in every imaginable form and that is ok???

I will likely be banned for even complaining about it publically.  

What is the answer?   Think like an android?  Take all this crap??   I am only allowed to stay here when abused?

If noone attacked me, I would never attacke back.   Wanna test this theory?  

Want to start now?  I got the guts and I can stick by my word.  I can keep the peace.   But here is the point, if there is a personal attack made at me and I point it out, will it be punished?   Will it be fair?

I am not above proving this FACT.   Are you?

It doesn't have to be "ruined", there is a real solution.   We could all treat each other with respect...and that includes treating ME with the same.

XXXXX

Randy T,

Perhaps you are right to an extent, but even that is far fetched.   Why..because the premise is still the same.   The NTSC standard.  Care to comment?

Explain to me how a lower resolution can ever truly take advantage of a higher resolution in case of "bleeding" when the concept just doesn't follow.

What was the exact highest resolution of an Atari game compared to say...a movie that has tons more detail.

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