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7 dead 16 wounded at attack on Dutch queensday.

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shmokes:
LMAO

patrickl:

--- Quote from: shmokes on May 07, 2009, 07:20:37 pm ---Patrick, are you really suggesting with a straight face that Obama and your Queen have similar levels of duties or responsibilities?
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No. I'm simply rebutting your claim that the royals are a stupid waste of money by showing that the US president fulfils the same role (besides his other duties) and in doing so "wastes" seriously obscene amounts of money. The expenditure of all royal famillies in Europe really pales in comparison.

It's simply a matter of different roles. Where the US puts everything on one person and the UK and Netherlands divide it over two, the Queen + PM. You can call outward appearances and tradition silly, but it achieves an effect and thus it's not useless and not a waste either. To just focus on the negative side (cost) shows an utter lack of understanding of the role of the royals and of the same role of your own president in similar affairs.

It's just as stupid as claiming that marketing is a useless waste of money. Sure, if you look at it only from a production perspective it is. It doesn't generate products. If you look at the whole picture, it obviously isn't useless. The UK royals probably make more money for the UK with the tourism they attract.

Even the notion that royal families are completely (politically) powerless is nonsense. Would you say that someone like Karl Rove was completely powerless? Or Dick Cheney? Neither had much legislative or executive powers, but still. It appeared that at some moments they had more power than Bush himself. In fact the Dutch government had to take steps to insure that the Dutch queen didn't become too powerful. On the other hand, lately I have to admit she's become a bit too old and quiet to really be effective in the international political scene. It's time for her son to become king.


--- Quote ---Anyway, stop being a baby.
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Indeed, please do. Think about this, you follow in pindouche's "arrogance in ignorance" and you portray yourself in much the same fashion. The fact that you don't know what you are talking about doesn't make you right.

patrickl:
Dude seriously.

ChadTower:

shmokes:

--- Quote from: patrickl on May 07, 2009, 08:56:25 pm ---
It's time for her son to become king.


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Why should he be king?  What's so great about him?

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