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Dartful Dodger:
I guess I've been out of the Chevy loop for a while.
The Malibu was a 4 door Chevelle so I assumed it still has some meat to it.  I had friends who had Cavalairs that wouldn't die, but I'm not sure how the Cobalt holds up to that Chevy rep.

As an only American motorcycle company Harley isn't that bad of a company, in fact they  make motorcycles Americans want to ride(but can’t afford to buy).

An American car company needs to make cars that can drive through a brick wall and go from 0-60 in under a second and I don't see Ford producing those kinds of cars.  I see Ford as building dependable everyday drivers, which is I guess what America is becoming.

There’s one American motorcycle company that's  quasi-competition for Harley.  I guess it would be pretty cool if the collapse of GM brings about an Indian-ish company making cars, heck if Indian started making cars I’d wet myself. 

I don't want to live in a country were Ford is king.

Zero_Hour:

--- Quote from: Dartful Dodger on April 23, 2009, 07:43:14 pm --- I had friends who had Cavalairs that wouldn't die, but I'm not sure how the Cobalt holds up to that Chevy rep.

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Mentioning that car makes me think I know exactly where GM went so horribly wrong...

Chevy = Cavalier
Buick = Skyhawk (You Mom's Cavalier)
Pontiac = Sunbird (A "Sporty" Cavalier)
Oldsmobile = Firenza (Not Your Father's Cavalier)
Cadillac = Cimarron (A Luxury Cavalier!? The mind boggles)

5 cars, (I'm not counting the 7 or so foreign variants) all based on the same platform, that (at least in the mid-late 80's) looked damn near the same. Aside from Engine Upgrades on some models (and significantly fancier trim on the Caddy), these were largely Marketing exercises. GM should have consolidated their various marquees 20 years ago.

TOK:

--- Quote from: Dartful Dodger on April 23, 2009, 07:43:14 pm ---There’s one American motorcycle company that's  quasi-competition for Harley.  I guess it would be pretty cool if the collapse of GM brings about an Indian-ish company making cars, heck if Indian started making cars I’d wet myself. 

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Are you forgetting about Victory/Polaris? They're way bigger than Indian.

Ford beat Chevy by having better, more varied mainstream vehicles. The Edge is so much more compelling than the Equinox. Have a Camaro in Transformers and the new ZR-1 is great, but they probably sell 10,000 mainstream cars for every ZR-1 or Z-06. Ford also seems to always win in the truck market.

Some stuff I can't explain. I really like the Malibu and the Fusion and Taurus look like what you get when you ask an 8 year old to draw a car.

TOK:

--- Quote from: pinballjim on April 24, 2009, 01:21:24 am ---I could barely afford the payments when I got it, but it's been paid for a couple years and the damn thing looks good and runs fine.    My friends with similar vintage Dodge and Chevy trucks?  No such luck.  I haven't met too many people willing to pay a $10k premium to drive a Toyota or Nissan truck.

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Its kind of funny that you mention this, because I have 3 trucks. My two personal trucks are a Nissan and Toyota pickups, and my work truck is a E250 van. I was very biased against domestics from a bad experience when I bought my vehicles, but Nissan and Toyota don't make "real" vans.
I haven't really had problems with any of them, but the Ford has won me over. It has about 105,000 miles on it now, has never stranded me anywhere and often has to idle for hours a day to run an inverter in areas with no power.

It has needed a coil pack and just had a coolant leak fixed. If I was pickup shopping today, an F-150 would be the first truck I looked at, not the last.

ChadTower:

--- Quote from: pinballjim on April 24, 2009, 01:21:24 am ---I'll be driving it until the wheels fall off. 

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I almost bought one last year but couldn't stomach the mpg.

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