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The Iceman retires.

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Malenko:

--- Quote from: shardian on April 20, 2009, 09:06:03 am ---Gracie beat up on non-trained weekend warriors. Strike that, because he didn't beat them up. He just broke their arm. You throw Joyce Gracie in a time machine and bring him to current day. He would just be another face in the crowd. Even then when he went over to Japan to fight real fighters, he had lots of problems with them.

--- End quote ---

thats a bit much, and please dont have me on the same side as Chad......
that being said, a 40 yr old Gracie held his own for a while against Forrest. I think my point was, once gracie did what he did other fighters had to learn new stuff and anyone who gets into the octagon with NO jujitsu/submission training doesn't last very long.

I dont care how "set up the first 2 UFCs were" fighting 4 or 5 people in 1 night couldnt have been easy, especially that giant ---fudgesicle--- of a Hawaiian in UFC2

danny_galaga:

i was thinking this might be about THIS iceman  :scared

now i think about it, he 'retired' years ago. in prison...

shardian:

--- Quote from: danny_galaga on April 22, 2009, 06:31:39 am ---
i was thinking this might be about THIS iceman  :scared

now i think about it, he 'retired' years ago. in prison...

--- End quote ---

Could have been this Iceman:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Parsons

I was  a fan of his when he teamed with the Von Erichs.

Ginsu Victim:

--- Quote from: shardian on April 22, 2009, 08:14:50 am ---
--- Quote from: danny_galaga on April 22, 2009, 06:31:39 am ---
i was thinking this might be about THIS iceman  :scared

now i think about it, he 'retired' years ago. in prison...

--- End quote ---

Could have been this Iceman:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Parsons

I was  a fan of his when he teamed with the Von Erichs.

--- End quote ---

Wow, I thought Iceman was dead. All but one of the Von Erichs are.

Cakemeister:
Huh? The Iceman's been retired since the 80s. He basically defined the shooting guard position as we know it today.

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