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TOK:

--- Quote from: danny_galaga on June 03, 2009, 02:48:52 am ---
And, RayB beat me to it on the other point.
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I was a kid at this time... There were lines, but cars didn't sit in the garage like the scenario you presented.
There were plug in electric cars at this time. Nobody bought them.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-PwMJFxsZM[/youtube]

Edit to add... I grew up about 1/2 mile away from a pretty historic fuel riot.
http://www.dan-smith.net/levittown/riot.html

HaRuMaN:

--- Quote from: TOK on June 03, 2009, 05:31:52 am ---Edit to add... I grew up about 1/2 mile away from a pretty historic fuel riot.
http://www.dan-smith.net/levittown/riot.html

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My wife grew up not far from there... Morrisville, PA

boykster:

--- Quote from: TOK on June 02, 2009, 07:33:44 am ---Fuel has never been unavailable, I'm not sure where you're pulling that scenario from. Mad Max? If it gets that bad, I won't have a job anyway since I doubt China will be making a plug in 3/4 ton work van.

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Have you ever taken the time to consider that by transitioning a moderate percentage of passenger vehicles used primarily for commuting to a non-gasoline or diesel based fuel source will EXTEND the timeline that those fuels will be available for consumption by vehicles that NEED it?  You know, for people who require a 3/4 ton work van? 

I'm not a big 'save the planet, ride your bike' kinda guy, but I do see the value is distributing the power usage for transportation away from a 99% fossil fuel use pattern.  Petroleum is a finite resource, and eventually it will be depleted.  Forcing everybody into a D-cell battery powered aluminum can isn't the answer, but neither is claiming that all alternative power sources are a waste of time and that we should all drive our gas guzzling Hummer's until the oil fields run dry. 

Sure, even a moderate shift to electric passenger vehicles will push our power grid - hell in many areas it's already pushed beyond the point of reliability.  Yep, batteries cause their own issues with pollution, but innovation in a renewable resource seems much more logical than ignoring the fact that at some point in the future, the gasoline powered car will be a museum piece.

 :dunno

RayB:
LOL, that vid above says "not bad for 200 miles per gallon". They measured electricity in gallons back then?

boykster:

--- Quote from: RayB on June 03, 2009, 01:47:11 pm ---LOL, that vid above says "not bad for 200 miles per gallon". They measured electricity in gallons back then?


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Usually its an "energy equivalent" comparison.....

http://www.phy.syr.edu/courses/modules/ENERGY/ENERGY_POLICY/tables.html

These tables can be manipulated to make your data look good or bad depending on your opinion of the problem

 ;D

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