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boykster:

--- Quote from: ChadTower on April 08, 2009, 09:33:57 am ---
Fiat and Peugeot failed because no one here will buy something with a French name on it.  You couldn't get a $25 hooker into a Fiat.  Don't forget Renault - they actually put "Le Car" on their cars and expected to sell them in the US.   :laugh2:

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Funny, last time I checked, Fiat was an Italian company  :dunno

danny_galaga:


while all those observations about peugot and fiat and hyundai are fantastic, it doesnt address the fact that none of the companies mentioned are about to make a plug in hybrid. GM dragged their feet, but now theyre boned...

shardian:
Plug-in-hybrids are not magically green. The hippies need to stop deluding themselves. Where the hell do they think that energy is coming from when they plug that thing in? Being 'green' really just boils down to people not wanting to be a direct 'end user' of pollution. It is still happening, but now it falls on those big, bad, mean, evil corporations that they can wave torches and pitchforks at. Oh, but that's okay - those mean corporate baddies can pass the buck too by buying carbon credits.
What an f'ing joke all around.

TOK:

--- Quote from: danny_galaga on May 29, 2009, 10:11:36 am ---

while all those observations about peugot and fiat and hyundai are fantastic, it doesnt address the fact that none of the companies mentioned are about to make a plug in hybrid. GM dragged their feet, but now theyre boned...

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China will probably do more damage to the environment producing hybrids than will be prevented by driving them.
 
GM may have been short-sighted in a changing market, but when they produce a hybrid it won't be a death-trap made by an unregulated company belching pollution into the air and water so some smug dummy in Berkley can pretend they're saving the world.
 

LLUncoolJ:

--- Quote from: shardian on May 29, 2009, 11:24:56 am ---Plug-in-hybrids are not magically green. The hippies need to stop deluding themselves. Where the hell do they think that energy is coming from when they plug that thing in? Being 'green' really just boils down to people not wanting to be a direct 'end user' of pollution. It is still happening, but now it falls on those big, bad, mean, evil corporations that they can wave torches and pitchforks at. Oh, but that's okay - those mean corporate baddies can pass the buck too by buying carbon credits.
What an f'ing joke all around.

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Logic has no place here...only emotions. Ask any hippie or Cub fan.

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