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mountain:

--- Quote from: shmokes on March 24, 2009, 09:03:31 pm ---I don't make it sound like anything other than what it is:  a phone that calls 911 (and only 911) from my pocket approximately 3-5 times per year.  Considering the fact that I carry my phone in my pocket all day every day that's not a lot of times.  But it's still happening a lot more often than it should (read: zero).

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 ;)

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
                                                                                                             -Einstein

Ed_McCarron:

--- Quote from: mountain on March 25, 2009, 10:23:31 am ---Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
                                                                                                             -Einstein

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Meh, Einstein wasn't that smart.  You remember that I before E thing you learned in school?  He got it wrong in his own name.  Twice.

shmokes:

--- Quote from: ChadTower on March 25, 2009, 09:57:40 am ---
So how many times would you call 911 before modifying how you carry it?

No one argued that it's a good design.  Bad design doesn't remove accountability for usage.

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Chad, what you don't seem to get is that y'all are missing the point.  You act like the issue is just resolved if I change my behavior, but that's not the case.  I would have the exact same problem that I have now even if I had holstered the phone after the first or second time it called 911.  Here is my issue:

If I carry my Blackberry Pearl in my pocket without a sleeve it will periodically call 911 even though the keys are locked.

Putting the phone in a holster does not make the above statement any less true.  Putting the phone in standby mode doesn't make it less true.  Buying a different phone doesn't make the statement any less true.  Wrapping it in a sleeve before putting it in my pocket doesn't make it less true.

I shouldn't have to take any of those steps.  I shouldn't have to take them after the 1st or 2nd time the phone calls 911.  I shouldn't have to take them after the 6th or 10th time the phone calls 911.  They should not be necessary.  The fact that I have to take one of those steps at all is what irritates me.  And it doesn't stop irritating me just because the phone is no longer dialing 911 because in order to get it to stop I had to stop using my phone in a way that I should be able to use it.  The whole purpose of a key lock feature is to keep a phone from doing what my phone is doing.

ChadTower:

--- Quote from: shmokes on March 25, 2009, 11:12:06 am ---Chad, what you don't seem to get is that y'all are missing the point.  You act like the issue is just resolved if I change my behavior, but that's not the case.  I would have the exact same problem that I have now even if I had holstered the phone after the first or second time it called 911.  Here is my issue:

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Your most common failure is that you assume anyone who fundamentally disagrees with you only does so out of lack of comprehension of your position.  If they'd only just get it they'd see the error of their opinion and recognize the infallacy of the shmokes!

Dude, I get your point, I just think it's a crock of nonaccountable ---That which is odiferous and causeth plants to grow---.  Be a man and accept responsibility.  Any incident after the first or maybe even second are all your fault - I don't care if the phone dials 911 when the battery runs low.  You know it, you didn't alter your behaviour, you are accountable.

CheffoJeffo:
OK, I'll agree with shmokes -- the design is stupid. I don't see where anybody said anything different.

BUT what is far more stupid is continuing to do the same thing again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again (did I get the count right ?) knowing in advance that it will happen, but figuring that since the design is stupid that somehow that makes it all OK.

EDIT: Which makes the point that I was getting at with respect to the G08 -- it is a flawed design that is prone to overheating and possibly igniting. If I put one in a cabinet, without adding a suitable cooling mechanism, knowing full well that it could catch fire, then I would have to be an idiot to lay the blame for such a fire solely at the feet of the manufacturer. It's inconvenient for me to have to add a fan. I shouldn't have to add a fan. I don't want to add a fan. But, if I quit whining, accept some responsibility and behave intelligently, then I can manage to get by without burning the damned house down.

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